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bgadow 04-12-2014 09:58 PM

Someday we should put together an accurate list of the clones, who built what, which were RCA-assembled and which were just built under license, etc.

A tube-color Philco has been on my want list for a while now. Someday...

Dave A 04-13-2014 12:01 AM

And don't forget the GE Portacolor clones. "I don't get any respect".

oldtvman 04-13-2014 12:49 PM

Thanks guys,

For some reason or another We saw Rca, Zenith, Motorola and Ge color set in the 60's. I don't remember seeing a Philco color until the mid 70's when it was Philco/Ford.

Now I have to decide whether to install the Rca hi-lite tube or the Sylvania color bright 85 tube.

Steve D. 04-13-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtvman (Post 3100950)
Thanks guys,

For some reason or another We saw Rca, Zenith, Motorola and Ge color set in the 60's. I don't remember seeing a Philco color until the mid 70's when it was Philco/Ford.

Now I have to decide whether to install the Rca hi-lite tube or the Sylvania color bright 85 tube.

[QUOTE=oldtvman;3100950]Thanks guys,

Did a little more digging. Ford purchased Philco in late 1961. They re-named it Philco-Ford in 1966. Ford sold Philco to GTE in 1974. GTE also owned the Sylvania brand at the time. So maybe the Sylvania tube? Just for yucks.

DaveWM 04-13-2014 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Steve D.;3100955]
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Originally Posted by oldtvman (Post 3100950)
Thanks guys,

Did a little more digging. Ford purchased Philco in late 1961. They re-named it Philco-Ford in 1966. Ford sold Philco to GTE in 1974. GTE also owned the Sylvania brand at the time. So maybe the Sylvania tube? Just for yucks.

Could be a sylvania tube, the two philco ford roundies I have I think have a RE21FBP22 and its a VERY nice tube esp the reds.

the ones I have are def not clones though, they have hybrid chassis, tuner/IF are SS the rest is tube. The HV regulation is a feedback type, not a shunt.

BigDavesTV 04-16-2014 09:18 AM

I have a 1963 Philco roundie, that contains an RCA, CTC-12a chassis, and Philco glued their tag over the CTC-12a stamp, barely centered, as you can see the slightly faded RCA stamp. My Philco has the original RCA 21FBP22, with a plastic safety glass in front of the CRT, that is curved to the shape of the CRT, like the fit of a bonded safety glass. This Philco also contains many RCA brand tubes in the chassis, that seem to be the original '63 tubes. The cabinet and bezel and knobs, etc. are not RCA looking design, so either Philco made or had those items made for them to use with the RCA chassis.

oldtvman 04-16-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDavesTV (Post 3101274)
I have a 1963 Philco roundie, that contains an RCA, CTC-12a chassis, and Philco glued their tag over the CTC-12a stamp, barely centered, as you can see the slightly faded RCA stamp. My Philco has the original RCA 21FBP22, with a plastic safety glass in front of the CRT, that is curved to the shape of the CRT, like the fit of a bonded safety glass. This Philco also contains many RCA brand tubes in the chassis, that seem to be the original '63 tubes. The cabinet and bezel and knobs, etc. are not RCA looking design, so either Philco made or had those items made for them to use with the RCA chassis.

Thanks Dave, Upon removing the chassis, I found the chassis to be RCA, the tuner assemblies are Philco which explains why each tuner has removable wiring harnesses. Have installed new Crt, now working on power supply and checking caps. In looking at chassis from the bottom the PC boards have Rca stamped right on them

tvcollector 04-16-2014 01:23 PM

That's defiantly a set that's on my want list..

oldtvman 04-16-2014 02:14 PM

These Rca's in sheeps clothing remind me of that song by Judy Collins "Send in the clones"

marty59 04-16-2014 04:44 PM

That original CRT didn't look too bad at all, good to keep around as a spare at least..

Electronic M 04-16-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by marty59 (Post 3101323)
That original CRT didn't look too bad at all, good to keep around as a spare at least..

Or one could fix the cataract by removing the CRT and soaking the face (or letting it sit in the sun and heat up) until the cloudy glue softens and lets go, clean the glue off and reinstall.

BigDavesTV 04-20-2014 04:02 PM

Haha, I like that Judy Collins song, "Send In The Clones!" I well remember when the song "Send In The Clowns" was popular :-)

Dave A 04-20-2014 06:55 PM

I worked a CBS football game in the 70's that had a music video played at halftime with "Send in the clowns" edited by NFL Films to footage of Joe Namuth in not his good days. Clips of him throwing interceptions and tackles behind the lines. Hard to watch remembering his good days.

That same game had a fan walking past the truck at the end and flipping a power switch on one phase of the truck sending us towards near darkness and sync-killing all of the stations down the line genlocked to the truck through CBS.

oldtvman 04-21-2014 06:07 PM

Initial picture after Sylvania crt installation
 
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Here are a few screen shots of chassis installation after crt change.

Now it's time for stage three final set up and alignment

bgk283 04-21-2014 06:41 PM

Hey Larry, good choice going with the Sylvania CRT, my daily driver is set with the color bright RE85,and it produces an amazing picture.


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