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dieseljeep 07-03-2023 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damen (Post 3251775)
I know they used different flybacks, same connections, just different construction. Also, the "X" versions used a 6JC6 for the 3rd If and burst amp tubes in place of the 6EH7 and 6EW6 in the earlier chassis.

You're thinking about the difference between the 16E and the 16X. It seems that the 16E came out in early 1965 and the 16X came out in late 1965, as a '66 model.

Yamamaya42 07-03-2023 12:49 PM

also, the 16x had the 21FJP22A vs the 21FJP22, being that the A had truer colors.

http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231228b.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227c.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227.jpg

:tears:

still fighting with a crappy camera and lighting :(

nasadowsk 07-04-2023 08:32 PM

Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

dieseljeep 07-05-2023 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3251813)
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

The CTC16X used a 2AV2.
A CTC16E I worked on had a 1V2, where the dropping resistor was bad. I jumped the resistor and installed a 2AV2. Noted the change on the TLD. :scratch2:

dieseljeep 07-05-2023 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3251790)
also, the 16x had the 21FJP22A vs the 21FJP22, being that the A had truer colors.

http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231228b.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227c.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227.jpg

:tears:

still fighting with a crappy camera and lighting :(

The "X" model had a rare-earth 21FJP22!

nasadowsk 07-06-2023 07:22 AM

Heh, yeah a 1V2 in there would glow. The tube I pulled was a 2AV2…

Was the 16XL the first RCA to use that tube?

dieseljeep 07-06-2023 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3251832)
Heh, yeah a 1V2 in there would glow. The tube I pulled was a 2AV2…

Was the 16XL the first RCA to use that tube?

The 16X, 17X and the newer chassis used them. Around the same time the other firms, that used a tube focus rectifier started to use them! It saved a dropping resistor! :yes:

nasadowsk 07-06-2023 11:18 AM

I always found it weird the 15 used a solid state focus rect, but they went back to tubes again. Cost? Reliability?

Yamamaya42 07-06-2023 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3251813)
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

You used to be able to find them sold in pairs, " workman" or whatnot, but now, finding any of them intact on sites like evil-bay takes quite a bit of luck, it still may be done if you keep looking.

Yamamaya42 07-06-2023 01:03 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22547050426...Bk9SR461sMWlYg

example

one for a CTC-20

No reason for it not to work in a ctc-16

Yamamaya42 07-06-2023 04:04 PM

And BOOM. someone nabbed it already! :o

nasadowsk 07-07-2023 05:28 AM

Yup :)


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