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timmy 03-30-2025 06:33 AM

This Columbia is getting weird now there is no focus voltage on pin 6 but yet the picture is not that bad as far as focus and there is no jumper on the crt and no magnet on the neck how can this be.the schematic don’t show where focus voltage comes from just says if using electrostatic tube then use pin 6. This chassis has a focus pot and an electrostatic tube but schematic I have shows no focus control because it shows the magnetic tube.

timmy 03-30-2025 09:13 AM

Well looks like one side of the focus pot is open and it’s a 1 meg but I have a 2 meg I’ll try should work will just be more to one side.

timmy 03-30-2025 11:22 AM

Got the focus voltage back only now the hv is to low should be between 15-16kv I only have 10.2kv how is the hv adjusted in these old 21 inch b&w sets. And what causes a bright dot in the center of the screen when turned off.

old_tv_nut 03-30-2025 11:30 AM

A bright center spot after turn off is normal for some sets. It depends on the relative rate of decay of the high voltage and the video output voltage. As long as the phosphor is not getting a dark spot burned in it, it's OK.

timmy 03-30-2025 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_tv_nut (Post 3262933)
A bright center spot after turn off is normal for some sets. It depends on the relative rate of decay of the high voltage and the video output voltage. As long as the phosphor is not getting a dark spot burned in it, it's OK.

Is there a way to adjust the hv? The other post I said hv was 10.2 kv not correct , it is 12kv for a 21 inch tube I would think it should be up around 14-16 kv datasheet says typical.

timmy 03-30-2025 01:38 PM

The focus voltage is not where it should be it’s at 286v while sams shows +305 v

bandersen 03-30-2025 02:37 PM

Adjustingthe horizontal freq. & drive, use fresh tubes, recap etc. Make sure B+ is where it should be.

The focus voltage is probably derived from the boost voltage which comes from the flyback damper circuit. So, if you have low HV, the boost * focus voltage are probably low.

You really need a schematic. What model # is it?

timmy 03-30-2025 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3262936)
Adjustingthe horizontal freq. & drive, use fresh tubes, recap etc. Make sure B+ is where it should be.

The focus voltage is probably derived from the boost voltage which comes from the flyback damper circuit. So, if you have low HV, the boost * focus voltage are probably low.

You really need a schematic. What model # is it?

I have a schematic it’s a 22c38 cbs Columbia. It’s been recapped tubes all good and tried moving the horizontal frequency drive won’t go any higher then 12 kv turn it any more and I get the line down the center. Focus voltage is low as well.

timmy 03-30-2025 03:12 PM

Never know what was done to a tv over the years maybe the afc was messed with along with the horizontal drive.

bandersen 03-30-2025 03:12 PM

22C38 has many variations and covered in Riders 14, 14 and 15.

Do you know if you have

Chassis
750-3
750-43
750-81
751-3
752-1
752-2
821-3
821-10
822-1
822-2

timmy 03-30-2025 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3262939)
22C38 has many variations and covered in Riders 14, 14 and 15.

Do you know if you have

Chassis
750-3
750-43
750-81
751-3
752-1
752-2
821-3
821-10
822-1
822-2

Oh where can I find this number I don’t remember seeing s number like these

timmy 03-30-2025 03:34 PM

This tv has no horizontal hold and there are no controls in the front only channel and turn on volume knob and has the electrostatic tube and it’s a stand up console type with a big speaker in the front bottom maybe this helps.

timmy 03-31-2025 07:08 AM

Would it make much difference to replace a 60 ohm 10 watt resistor with a 50 ohm 10 watt resistor in the b+ Because I have a 68 ohm in there now I don’t know what maybe better higher or lower

kf4rca 03-31-2025 08:21 AM

Probably has a synchroguide horizontal circuit. Is there a connector on the rear chassis that says "color wheel adapter"? Gosh, I wish I still had that set!

Electronic M 03-31-2025 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmy (Post 3262927)
Any knowledge on who built the chassis for cbs Columbia?

They built it themselves. In the early 50s to compete in the color wars CBS Columbia bought out a TV maker IIRC Air King and changed that makers name to CBS. The FCC wouldn't hear color TV standards proposals from broadcasters, you had to be or own a TV set manufacturer to submit a proposal.
A few years after the color wars were lost by CBS they sold or divested their TV manufacturing division and the brand ceased to be.


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