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Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 12:55 AM

Another CTC Surfaces In WI
 
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My son and I carried this one up out of a couple’s basement late Saturday afternoon… my back is still hurting. If there's a next one, the chassis is going to come out first. :yes:

I can't quite make out the chassis number.
According to SAM'S, it's a CTC-10-C. Apparently it was made the same year as the CTC-11 we found two weeks ago.

Kevin

Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 01:07 AM

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A peek inside. The CRT tested good. I'm delighted that this one has the separate safety glass.

Kevin

compu_85 02-01-2011 01:10 AM

What year was that made in? Nice quad speaker setup, should sound nice once you get it going.

-J

Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 01:18 AM

I'm not sure of the year. SAM'S is dated 2-61.

It has a trio of speakers, one oval woofer and left-right tweeties.

Cabinet is Maple, I think Early American style. Not my favorite, but it is pretty.

Kevin

DaveWM 02-01-2011 07:13 AM

thats a very nice looking set. look brand new!

zenithfan1 02-01-2011 09:18 AM

Wow! That is one beautiful CTC-10! PLEASE, let me know asap IF you ever decide to sell it. A 10 is on my must have list. I'm trying to obtain at least one excellent example of each chassis up to CTC-16. No pressure though, just sayin'.

IsthmusTV 02-01-2011 09:38 AM

Wow Kevin, nice score! That set is in fantastic condition and no cataract!

Now you can reflect on your good fortune while your back heals:)

-Clark

P.S. Great avatar

ohohyodafarted 02-01-2011 12:27 PM

Nice set Kevin! I have the exact same CTC10 cabinet style, but I have a remote controll version.

How and where did you find this set? Was it a cragislist? Just curious.

GeorgeJetson 02-01-2011 12:35 PM

Kevin,nice set though I'm not a fan of the early American style either.
That color emblem is interesting,can you post a close up of it?

Is it lenticular to give the illusion of changing colors when you move toward it?,I had a RCA tabletop that did that.

Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ohohyodafarted (Post 2993713)

How and where did you find this set? Was it a cragislist? Just curious.

First, we sneak into peoples homes disguised as furniture delivery guys, and then we offer to take dangerous old electronic stuff that normally requires harzardus recycling fee's. :D ;) Well, the first part is sorta true, we do deliver furniture into peoples homes. :)

Kevin

Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeJetson (Post 2993714)
Kevin,nice set though I'm not a fan of the early American style either.
That color emblem is interesting,can you post a close up of it?

Is it lenticular to give the illusion of changing colors when you move toward it?,I had a RCA tabletop that did that.

Yep, it does that. Will try to take a closeup later.

Kevin

Phil Nelson 02-01-2011 12:56 PM

Zounds, there's hardly even dust inside. Nice score, and this one should be a piece of cake after you finish the CTC -11.

Phil Nelson

Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 01:56 PM

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Thanks to everyone for the positive comments, I'm enjoying showing it off, even though the cabinet is not exactly my flavor.

I hope my sarcastic sense of humor doesn't rub anyone the wrong way... I'm not really a mean guy that steals peoples old TV's.

Here are some pictures of that Color emblem. It doesn't like being photographed up close, the colors glow better from a distance.

Kevin

John Folsom 02-01-2011 02:43 PM

Kevin, a very nice set indeed. And I LIKE the cabinet style.

DaveWM 02-01-2011 03:52 PM

I am with John on that, the cabinet style looks great!

Kevin Kuehn 02-01-2011 06:51 PM

Furniture style is a pretty interesting study, and not one that usually makes sense. Stuff just happens and ends up being transitional. :scratch2:

Kevin

dieseljeep 02-01-2011 07:18 PM

When I was buying and selling used TV sets the early American cabinet styles were always hard sellers. Most people didn't have that decor.

Steve D. 02-01-2011 08:09 PM

Kevin,

Nice score there. Your model is the CTC-10 "Montecello." RCA called the finish "orange maple veneer." The remote version is called the "Fairhaven."

-Steve D.

bgadow 02-01-2011 10:10 PM

Something tells me that Bob G. is going to enter the furniture delivery business!

Great find; there were some really attractive sets in the CTC-10 lineup, and I think this is one of them.

dieseljeep 02-02-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 2993752)
When I was buying and selling used TV sets the early American cabinet styles were always hard sellers. Most people didn't have that decor.

I didn't say I wouldn't buy it today, as I only collect. I don't buy and sell anymore. That set is in pristine condition.

matt_s78mn 02-02-2011 09:27 AM

That set is beautiful!! Guess I'm living on the wrong side of the state!

sampson159 02-02-2011 09:28 AM

we saw too many early american cabinets here.it was the most popular style back then.we were economically repressed in this area.not sure this had anything to do with this.sun tv always had the early american items discounted.usually about 10 per cent less.at least 7 out of 10 sets we saw were purchased there.

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 09:37 AM

It probably looks nicer than reality in the pictures. It's generally clean, but it's got some dings and scuffs. Stuff you'd expect after 50 years. It was always stored inside a home. The basement it came out of was a very nice living space.

Kevin

DaveWM 02-02-2011 09:51 AM

that condition storage seems to be the key, I bet the filter caps will be fine.

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveWM (Post 2993807)
that condition storage seems to be the key, I bet the filter caps will be fine.

We'll soon find out. :D

Kevin

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 10:25 AM

Was poking around and noticed that droptop found one of these same sets not too long ago. http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=249411
His also looks to be in excellent condition, possibly even nicer than mine.

I like the swirled maple top on his much better than the one I found. That is one beautiful piece of wood.

Kevin

droptop 02-02-2011 05:35 PM

Kevin,
Great score- and you had help loading. It doesn’t get any better than that. There is quite a difference in the veneer pattern between the two although the color is the same. I’m just glad it found a new home.

The set I have appears to be in similar condition to yours- just light scuffs etc from 50 years of use. We both got lucky in finding the sets in such good shape fresh out of the house. I haven’t powered mine up yet as I like to change out the electrolytics to keep stress off the power transformer.

The CYP in my set checks out great. Hopefully I’ll get time to work on it soon. Is your safety glass clear or tinted? Mine appears tinted the same as on my CTC 7 Grenoble. Did they come both ways?

Keep us posted on your set and progress.

Rick

miniman82 02-02-2011 06:15 PM

Hmm, my CTC-7 had tinted glass too. I thought it was just x-rays.

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by droptop (Post 2993837)
Is your safety glass clear or tinted? Mine appears tinted the same as on my CTC 7 Grenoble. Did they come both ways?

Rick,

I thought it was clear, but it's really hard to say for sure without taking it off. And I'm not even sure how to go about doing that.

Kevin

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 09:44 PM

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I did the bad thing and turned the set on without replacing the electrolytic caps. :no: I slowly brought up the mains voltage while monitoring both the AC input and the HOT cathode current. I also have a 3 amp fuse in my variac. All seemed well, and I had a raster, but I couldn't get any video through the tuner. The pictures below are with the B&K 1077B's signal being directly injected into the IF though that phono plug that normally goes into the tuner. And there's no audio either. At least I know the HV and sweep circuits are working pretty decent. And the big filter caps stayed cool after an hour or so of this goofing around.

So now I need to figure out how the HV wire comes off that 21CYP22A. You certainly don’t take the CRT out to disconnect it? The HV wire disappears behind the CRT front clamp/cover. :scratch2:

Kevin

DaveWM 02-02-2011 09:47 PM

wow, that has great color and lineairity.

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 09:56 PM

They are shockingly colorful. I watched a 60's RCA color set as a child, but I had no recollection of how well these worked until a couple of weeks ago. That was when I fired the CTC11 up.

Kevin

miniman82 02-02-2011 09:58 PM

You don't take the wire off the tube, you take the anode wire out of the HV connection on the HV rectifier cup. Rotate the round cover on the cage so you can get a needle nose in there, then give the anode wire a tug and it should just come right out.

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 10:02 PM

You just pull straight out on it, you don't need to pinch it and wiggle it out like on a CRT?

Kevin

miniman82 02-02-2011 10:09 PM

Nope, it just sits in the rectifier cup, no clip. Don't try to pull it out from the front of the cage though, it usually takes a little turn from the top of the cage to get to the cup. That's why you have to reach in there and pull it off the cup, but make sure you either discharge first or use an insulated tool!

Kevin Kuehn 02-02-2011 10:25 PM

Thanks for the help. I'll go see if I can hurt myself.

Kevin

miniman82 02-02-2011 10:29 PM

It'll hurt if it bites you, but it won't kill you. lol

droptop 02-03-2011 08:24 PM

Kevin,
It looks very promising. Your results now have me wanting to check out my 10. I just might bring it up slowly this weekend to see what happens. The seller told me they had it powered up and got “colored snow” so maybe it will come to life. I’ll let you know.

My CTC 7 sat for nearly two years before I got the chance to restore it. I noticed the glass looked dark but figured it was dust accumulation. Not until I removed it did I realize it was tinted.

My 10 has the same appearance so I’m guessing they were tinted. I saw a mention in an older thread (that I can’t find now) about tinted glass being used to keep room light and glare from the surface of the tube because of the lack of brightness of the CRT IIFC.

By all means discharge the HV cup before reaching in there. I leave it grounded with a clip lead as a smaller charge can build up again in my experience.

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 2993872)
It'll hurt if it bites you, but it won't kill you. lol

And it will leave a lasting impression- usually on your elbow or head….

Rick

DaveWM 02-03-2011 11:08 PM

yea its not the shock so much, but rather what sharp things that you get cut on as you jerk you hand away....

Kevin Kuehn 02-03-2011 11:28 PM

I got the HV wire unplugged last night without any injury. I had a glove on, plus I used the needle nose. I now have the chassis down in my basement shop, but haven't gotten around to looking at it yet. I sure wish there were a small color test CRT a guy could plug into one of these while powering up on the bench.

Kevin


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