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tvtimeisfun 01-23-2012 04:41 PM

Post those 1950s color roundies
 
:banana::banana::banana:Hey everybody show us your roundies I have a RCA VICTOR CTC9 blonde cabinet 1 day a friend of mine showed me this set so I offered him 300 clams for this tv back in 1999 when my flea market was doing well so he kept himholling around and then 1 day in 2002 after the death of my 11 year old daughter another friend that we knew in common was having a yard sale and this tv was stored in his basement so I picked it up for 50 bucks and boy was our friend mad at both of us he does not speak to us any more so whatever happens do not store any vintage set in a friends basement his loss is my gain..:yes::yes::thmbsp::banana::banana::banana:

kvflyer 01-23-2012 06:54 PM

Here is a CTC-9C (I think) that I got just about a year ago. This photo was taken whilst it was sitting in the driveway right after I brought it home. It was about 18 degrees and windy that day! All that I have done is to replace the CRT because the one in this set had zero emission on all three guns. It had been running with a "brightener" on it. I replaced the electrolytic capacitors and it got a raster so I was very, very happy. It is in queue now...

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/...er1/CTC-9C.jpg

Sandy G 01-23-2012 07:08 PM

Aww, man...I'd give my EYETEETH for a workin' Fifties Roundie...

miniman82 01-23-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 3024969)
Aww, man...I'd give my EYETEETH for a workin' Fifties Roundie...

It's as simple as having the cash to buy one, my friend...

Eric H 01-23-2012 08:54 PM

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I've still got Mr Anderson to fix someday.
That would be a 1958 CTC 7.

I've got the itch to get back in to it soon, right now a early 60's Silvertone took cuts in line and is getting my attention first, for no other reason than it may be easier to get going.

miniman82 01-23-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric H (Post 3024978)
I've still got Mr Anderson to fix someday. That would be a 1958 CTC 7.

Not that I'm one-upping you, but...

1957 version of the same set. :smoke:

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...0&d=1326768870


Yours will be every bit as nice someday, it will make you proud!

lnx64 01-23-2012 10:18 PM

miniman82, I don't see your pic.

AUdubon5425 01-23-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3024974)
It's as simple as having the cash to buy one, my friend...

I like stealing them - sneaking a CTC-9 through a window while the family slept was one of the greatest thrills of my life.

Sandy G 01-23-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3024974)
It's as simple as having the cash to buy one, my friend...

Uhh, yeah, I know...Bein' UNEMPLOYED, & congenitally BROKE most of the time kinda puts a Cramp in my Style...Champaigne tastes on a Beer Budget 'n' all...(grin)

Electronic M 01-23-2012 11:05 PM

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AUdubon5425
I like stealing them - sneaking a CTC-9 through a window while the family slept was one of the greatest thrills of my life.
Then stay away from me and my 1955 RCA CTC4 Seville!:twak: Trespassers may be shot!:smshot::p:
http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/...h/DSCN1561.jpg

It's rough, but ain't no one getting it from me without a fight (or a ridiculous sum of cash/crazy far-in-my-favor trade).

Ampico-kid 01-23-2012 11:20 PM

Here's a 1959 RCA CTC9 Caulfield set. Needed filters, a few tubes, some cleaning, and a thorough set up. Has the original 21CYP22 crt. Looks pretty good for 53 years old.

http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/u...ofDSCN2874.jpg


Here's a 1957 RCA CTC5 Aldrich with the optional base and the Super chassis. This set needed a full restoration of the chassis, some tubes, and a full set up. Still has the original 21AXP22 crt.

http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/u...ofDSCN3594.jpg

Sandy G 01-24-2012 05:02 AM

You guys are makin' me sick...Ah HATE yew !! (grin)

andy 01-24-2012 10:18 AM

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IsthmusTV 01-24-2012 10:52 AM

Here's a screen shot from my 1958 RCA CTC-7AA, "Abington." It's my only roundie and still a work in progress.
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/...V/P1020617.jpg

-Clark

mstaton 01-24-2012 11:23 AM

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Here's a 1956 CTC-5 super(The Stanwyck). Needs a complete restoration. Not the original CRT(21cyp22). Also a 1959 CTC9A just like Ampico-Kids's. Works but needs more love. Very high hours set and not the original CRT. It has had at least 5 replacements. The last one in 1983 not including the one I did. Original hang-tag.

holmesuser01 01-24-2012 05:09 PM

I really like these CTC-9's I'm seeing. My CTC 10C works, but could probably benefit with filters and capacitors. I've been running it since 1975, and replaced the OEM broken CYP22 with a well-used FBP22 in 1975, and a brand new rebuilt in 1982. And here it sits. As soon as I can get it uncovered and turned so I can take a picture of it in operation, I'll post it here.

miniman82 01-24-2012 06:43 PM

I really like the cabinet styles of the CTC-9 series, they are some of the best looking sets IMO. I used to have a set called The Atherton, but sold it to another member.

Adam 01-24-2012 07:00 PM

My newly acquired CTC-9, The Kenbridge, with remote control. I've been so busy lately, I haven't done any work on it at all yet. From this thread it looks as if there are a lot more of the 9s still out there than any of the earlier models. As cool as some of the really early color sets are, of the 50s color sets, I'd like to find the CTC-7, remote-controlled Worthington, most of all.

Sandy G 01-24-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by andy (Post 3025026)
It also helps to be in a city/state that had color TV before 1970!

No Kiddin'...I THINK we had Color from 1965 onward, but not too many sets B4c. 1970...

ceebee23 01-24-2012 08:49 PM

oh some serious WOW
 
some great looking sets here guys ...serious drool time.

BUT one thing that has always slightly puzzled me looking at the roundies is just what size rectangular screen do they approximate.

They seem to look quite large? 25"?

Pardon my iggoranz but on this side of the world we never actually see such rare beasties in the wild.

holmesuser01 01-24-2012 08:52 PM

I think they were something close to 19" diagonally.

Adam 01-24-2012 08:54 PM

They're called 21" tubes, presumably to be more-or-less equivalent to the 21" rectangular-ish b/w tubes that were probably the most common size b/w tubes in consoles of the time.

David Roper 01-24-2012 09:56 PM

The image size on a 21" round tube is probably close to that of a 24" rectangular (b&w) tube, the difference in measurement coming down to the presence or absence of the corners of the frame.

bozey45 01-25-2012 03:46 AM

My RCA CTC-11 Roundie
 
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This is my CTC-11; old photo, since this was taken it has a new tube with about 2 hours on it; just sitting in the garage covered up. Acquired in the 1980's from an engineer at the station I worked at for eons. It was the lobby set originally; great picture until it lost vertical output several years ago. Hope to get it going again one of these days.

zenithfan1 01-25-2012 08:21 AM

You guys have some great looking sets! Looks like I need to finish my 9 Anniversary set, 5 Wingate that now has a good 21AXP22! and my still working all original 4 Director 21.....Then I can post some pics. I still have obligations to members here that I need to take care of first. My life is upside down at the moment. But, I was able to get almost everything I wanted out of my house before it was all stolen (some was) and before the bank came and put a lock on the door.......wait....chotto matte yo! Nevermind:D There WAS a lock on the door, I unlocked it with my foot;3 Needless to say, tanoshiikata da na! Screw you Bank of America.

old_tv_nut 01-25-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by David Roper (Post 3025082)
The image size on a 21" round tube is probably close to that of a 24" rectangular (b&w) tube, the difference in measurement coming down to the presence or absence of the corners of the frame.

Yes, 24 inch. NTSC raster is 3V:4H:5 Diagonal. The "21 inch" round tube is actualy 19+" viewable, so 19 x 5 /4 = 23.75 viewable.

Ralph S 01-25-2012 03:46 PM

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Attached is a photo of my CTC-5U Chandler. The 21AXP22A is original to the set. It required full cap replacement and a number of resistor changes. Some tubes had to be replaced. All in all it's an excellent set and I love the color it produces.

Penthode 01-25-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AUdubon5425 (Post 3024996)
... sneaking a CTC-9 through a window while the family slept was one of the greatest thrills of my life.

Was this how the set was acquired or how you had to bring the thing into your home after you acquired it?

tvtimeisfun 01-25-2012 04:26 PM

Hello every one of these roundies are very excellent I am glad that I am not the only 1 that enjoys these old bueaties thank you for helping on this thread keep the roundies coming and Happy Collecting... timothy

Theremin 01-25-2012 06:41 PM

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1957 Packard-Bell 21CC1.

David Roper 01-25-2012 07:09 PM

Holy moly, that Packard Bell is a gem! You should contact the Early Television Foundation that it may be counted it in their database.

earlyfilm 01-25-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ceebee23 (Post 3025079)
BUT one thing that has always slightly puzzled me looking at the roundies is just what size rectangular screen do they approximate.

They seem to look quite large? 25"?

Pardon my iggoranz but on this side of the world we never actually see such rare beasties in the wild.

You are very close!

Remember in the mid 1950's, they still measured the glass (or metal) envelope and not the viewable screen itself until the US government required that the measurement to be the viewable portion.

For instance, per RCA's 1957 spec sheet, on the original 21CYP22 that the Ampico-Kid mentioned on his 1959 Caufield, the outside envelope measures 20 and 13/16ths inch with a tolerance of + or - 1/8th inch. (The outside glass had to be over 20.5 to be counted as a 21 inch.)

The usable image area is 15 and 1/2 inch high and 19 and 1/4 inch wide, and since it is round, the actual diagonal is also 19 and 1/4 inch.

If this were compared in size to a rectangular image in modern diagonal width measurement this equals:

(15.5 squared) plus (19.25 squared) = square root of total

or just a smidgen over 24 and 1/2 inches diagonal, if it were a rectangle.

Hope this simplifies things.

droptop 01-25-2012 08:29 PM

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A restored and working second version CTC 7 Grenoble with remote from 1959 and the 1961 CTC 10 Monticello as yet unrestored. I'll work on getting some better screen shots.

Sandy G 01-25-2012 08:54 PM

I just marvel...The folks in antebellum 1959 NEVER thought that their products MIGHT be obsolete in 2012..And didn't CARE if they were...They went ahead & did their damndest...And their products can still be viable 50-odd years later...Contrast that to today...All sorts of stories of DLP tVs losing their lights after 3. 4, 5, yrs of use...And they cost a king's ransom compared to the color overachievers of 1959...Shameful. This era impresses me NOT AT ALL...Except for its unrelenting CRAVENNESS, making everything cheaper & cheaper, NOT Better & Better...Or am i being a reactionary, backwards, inbred Redneck Old Poop, as usual ?!?

miniman82 01-25-2012 09:41 PM

HD (as we know it today) didn't exist back then, things are different now. Besides, we on this board make up for the fact that we watch modern sets by restoring the old ones. In that way, we hope to make up for the shame of watching modern plastic sets! lol

bgadow 01-25-2012 09:52 PM

Guess you'll have to settle for these screenshots for now. One of these photos is not like the others:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ow/CTC5010.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ow/CTC5011.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ow/CTC5012.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ow/CTC5020.jpg
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ow/CTC5030.jpg

That's my CTC-5 Whitby, proof that anybody can bring one back to life given enough time! More later...

reeferman 01-25-2012 10:03 PM

Vanna never looked so good as on that CTC-5 of Ralph's.

AUdubon5425 01-25-2012 11:05 PM

Johnny LaRue :)

Theremin 01-26-2012 05:35 AM

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1956 Raytheon C-21C1M

truetone36 01-26-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Theremin (Post 3025199)
1956 Raytheon C-21C1M

WOW!!! another one that probably needs to be entered into the ETF database.


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