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radiotron 09-03-2012 12:38 PM

Identify my Philco Predicta
 
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I have a blonde philco predicta 21" meatal cabinet with the speaker built on the side on about foot long legs its a console anybody know what model it is, ive never seen one like it. It worked 2 months ago as you can see.
also why when i turn it on it comes on then the screen slowly goes black? I replaced the 6da4 damper the 6dq6 looks pretty bright thogh could be the 1b3?
IT HAS NOT BEEN NECKED

Electronic M 09-03-2012 01:01 PM

A picture might help in identifying it.

leadlike 09-04-2012 12:08 AM

Your 21" Predicta appears to use the same chassis as the 17" models did. On mine (17" model), the picture would come up nice and strong, but fade to black as well. What happened was a solder joint would open up around the damper tube, shutting down its filament. By hardwiring in the filament circuit, I was back in business.

radiotron 09-04-2012 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by leadlike (Post 3046786)
Your 21" Predicta appears to use the same chassis as the 17" models did. On mine (17" model), the picture would come up nice and strong, but fade to black as well. What happened was a solder joint would open up around the damper tube, shutting down its filament. By hardwiring in the filament circuit, I was back in business.

Thanks it worked 2 months ago ill try what you said.

Electronic M 09-04-2012 12:56 PM

Plugging those tubes back in should help it work better too.

I wonder what the collectablity of those Non-bubble tops is compared to the bubble top models.

radiotron 09-04-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3046833)
Plugging those tubes back in should help it work better too.

I wonder what the collectablity of those Non-bubble tops is compared to the bubble top models.

I know I have all the tubes, I was working on it when the photos were taken.

radiotron 09-04-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3046833)
Plugging those tubes back in should help it work better too.

I wonder what the collectablity of those Non-bubble tops is compared to the bubble top models.

dont know any clue what model it is?

Phil Nelson 09-04-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3046833)
I wonder what the collectablity of those Non-bubble tops is compared to the bubble top models.

Much, much less. Without the distinctive screen suspended above the cabinet, it's just another boring 1950s TV.

Phil Nelson

Don Lindsly 09-04-2012 04:48 PM

Check the .047 cap that goes from the width control to flyback, pin 8.

radiotron 09-05-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Lindsly (Post 3046861)
Check the .047 cap that goes from the width control to flyback, pin 8.

The solder points, and everythings good. Any clue what model?

radiotron 09-06-2012 04:51 AM

ITS A MILITARY SET!!!!!
STAR ON FLYBACK U.S. underneath the star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the prosess of fixing!!!!!!!!

radiotron 09-06-2012 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Nelson (Post 3046847)
Much, much less. Without the distinctive screen suspended above the cabinet, it's just another boring 1950s TV.

Phil Nelson

1950s tv BORING???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????:scratch2 ::no::no::no::no::no::no::no:

Eric H 09-06-2012 08:40 AM

Moved here so Bob's Predicta thread can get back on topic.

bandersen 09-09-2012 01:28 PM

This set looks pretty close to yours. http://evilfurnaceman.tripod.com/id47.html

http://evilfurnaceman.tripod.com/sit...lco21blond.jpg

radiotron 10-15-2012 08:03 PM

does anyone have a scamatic, or as sams for this set?
its made out of a 1958 holiday predicta

wa2ise 10-15-2012 08:55 PM

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment...3&d=1346708897

You should replace those caps. The white ceramic tube ones, the black ones with yellow lettering too. They're just wax paper caps inside.

Boobtubeman 10-15-2012 10:51 PM

and remove the spare loose tubes :D

SR

bandersen 10-15-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by radiotron (Post 3051283)
does anyone have a scamatic, or as sams for this set?
its made out of a 1958 holiday predicta

It looks a lot more like a Princess than a Holiday. The Holiday doesn't use a power transformer.

Can you find a chassis # on it ? Something like 10L43 ?

julianburke 10-27-2012 02:58 PM

I believe this is one of the Princess series. These are perhaps rarer than the Predicta sets as we know them. They were too little too late before Philco's demise.

spudz64 04-05-2013 01:09 PM

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I think I found what model you have....looking at a Philco 1960 product sheet I have, it looks to be the "Fairfield", #4668, using the 10L30 chassis. Compare the measurements from the sheet below to yours and see.

radiotron 04-05-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spudz64 (Post 3066188)
I think I found what model you have....looking at a Philco 1960 product sheet I have, it looks to be the "Fairfield", #4668, using the 10L30 chassis. Compare the measurements from the sheet below to yours and see.

thats it thanks!

decojoe67 04-05-2013 04:04 PM

Interesting set. I've never seen this model in the "Predicta" series. It's true that it doesn't have the desirability of the swivel tube models, but in it's own way it's a nice set. Only recently I've gotten into '50's era TV's and I'm enjoying using them more than my '40's era sets!
Good luck with it.

bandersen 04-05-2013 06:07 PM

Technically, I don't think it is in the Predicta series as it has a 90 degree CRT rather than 110.

leadlike 04-06-2013 07:18 AM

Yeah, I don't see anything on the set with the Predicta logo, even the Miss America set has that somewhere on the crt bezel. The Philco logo is the same as you would see on a Predicta Princess, but that is about it. Maybe with the bubble top Philcos selling not at all well, Philco made up some budget sets to use up those extra chassis.

Don Lindsly 04-06-2013 01:38 PM

The entire '59 TV line was designated as "Predicta". All the '59 swivel tops, and a few low end TVs, used the series string chassis. It was an updated version of the '58 "Seventeener II" box style portable.

For 1960, Philco went to the "cool chassis" design using a power transformer. Early versions used a 5U4, but soon converted to diodes. The layout and circuit design were much improved.

The 1960 logo, knobs and trim are different from the 1959. There were some carry over sets, but for the most part "Predicta" was downplayed after 1960. All bubble tops are Predictas, but not all Predictas are bubble tops. Don

jr_tech 04-06-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Lindsly (Post 3066265)
The entire '59 TV line was designated as "Predicta". All the '59 swivel tops, and a few low end TVs, used the series string chassis. It was an updated version of the '58 "Seventeener II" box style portable.

So everything in this Canadian ad can really be called a Predicta, including the "Miss America" and "Slender Seventeener" ?

http://www.rubylane.com/item/137274-...co-PREDICTA-TV

jr

MuzzcoVW 08-01-2025 10:02 AM

That's not a Predicta, but still very cool! Many Philco sets in this era used a Predicta style chassis, same as my 1960 Bristol that I'm just wrapping up an electronic restoration on.

MuzzcoVW 09-12-2025 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by radiotron (Post 3046715)
I have a blonde philco predicta 21" meatal cabinet with the speaker built on the side on about foot long legs its a console anybody know what model it is, ive never seen one like it. It worked 2 months ago as you can see.
also why when i turn it on it comes on then the screen slowly goes black? I replaced the 6da4 damper the 6dq6 looks pretty bright thogh could be the 1b3?
IT HAS NOT BEEN NECKED

Any chance you'd sell that set, I'm looking for one. I sent you a PM. Craig

WISCOJIM 09-15-2025 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MuzzcoVW (Post 3264655)
Any chance you'd sell that set, I'm looking for one. I sent you a PM. Craig

You're responding to a twelve year old post. Radiotron hasn't been here in more than 6 years.

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MuzzcoVW 09-19-2025 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WISCOJIM (Post 3264657)
You're responding to a twelve year old post. Radiotron hasn't been here in more than 6 years.

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Thanks. I posted that when the server issues started showing up and didn't notice the date. Too bad, that's a set I've been trying to track down for a while


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