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reeferman 09-19-2012 10:37 PM

Zenith roundie in St Louis
 
Two roundies
From looking at the pictures he must have some tv knowledge. Is he among us?
[/url]http://stlouis.craigslist.org/atq/3274548905.html[/url]
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/atq/3271088000.html
Phil

snelson903 09-19-2012 11:03 PM

mybe someone could show up and make him a package deal,sounds like he is ready to get rid of them.

snelson903 09-19-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by reeferman (Post 3048512)
Two roundies
From looking at the pictures he must have some tv knowledge. Is he among us?
[/url]http://stlouis.craigslist.org/atq/3274548905.html[/url]
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/atq/3271088000.html
Phil

i did get your email reeferman ,i sent you a pm. thanks

miniman82 09-19-2012 11:09 PM

Decent sets, someone scoop them up! Snelson, you're closer than I am! lol

snelson903 09-19-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3048520)
Decent sets, someone scoop them up! Snelson, you're closer than I am! lol

after that ge last friday iv got stop for awhile ,i have enough to keep me busy over the winter .

snelson903 09-19-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3048520)
Decent sets, someone scoop them up! Snelson, you're closer than I am! lol

i dont know if you remember when we were looking at that silvertone in your garage ,and we couldnt see were that extra plate cap went, i finely had a chance since i picked it up to look at it ,the tube in the back that looked like a 6dw4 was really a 6dl3 with the top cleanly knock off . to me it looks like a 6dw4 with a extra plate cap added ,so if you remember thats what it was.

zenithfan1 09-19-2012 11:44 PM

That is a great haul for whomever gets them. The newer set has the last roundie chassis (can't remember off the top of my head because it's late and I'm tired) from '67 that produces a great picture and the other is a '63 that had the 25LC20QS chassis, also a great performer that is reliable and fun to work on. Good luck scoring the whole lot, whoever goes....

mstaton 09-19-2012 11:46 PM

3 extra CRT's to boot!

sean 09-20-2012 07:54 AM

I think I know who it is that has those listed. I'm pretty sure he is not on VK.

John Marinello 09-20-2012 08:32 AM

That's Joe. He's not among us. He's got a shitload of old radios, too.

Bill R 09-20-2012 11:53 AM

I could use 1 or 2 of those CRT's.

Sandy G 09-20-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sean (Post 3048539)
I think I know who it is that has those listed. I'm pretty sure he is not on VK.

Well, sounds like he OUGHTA be...Any of you fellers ever talked to him about us ?

marty59 09-20-2012 01:10 PM

HHhhmmmmmmmm......roadtrip? :scratch2:

tvcollector 09-20-2012 03:18 PM

I could use one of those tubes as well..

reeferman 09-20-2012 11:00 PM

I would be willing to help in your quest to acquire any of these items by picking them up/short term storing for you. HOWEVER, there would have to be a relatively fast turn around out of my house to you. I have gotten rid of a few nice Zenith roundies in the past (25 yrs or so ago) with the encouragement of you know who. She has mellowed but would not put up with them taking up long term residence.
If you want to go for it, contact me.
Phil

tvcollector 09-21-2012 03:40 AM

I would be too afraid one of those CRT tubes getting damaged.. So far out of two sets needing picture tubes within the past year, I ended receiving the Tubes DOA.. The last one I'm still in the process with Greyhound trying to get my money out of them.. If you could have the Tube packed really well, I would be interested..

Bill R 09-21-2012 08:19 PM

I could come and get them anytime, but it would depend on price and condition.

reeferman 09-21-2012 09:45 PM

I'm not in the packing/crating business. I could have some professional do it, but I won't take the responsibility.

If interested PM me.

Phil

snelson903 09-21-2012 09:52 PM

ask miniman82 about u-ship, see if roy could pick up the crt's and run them to you.lol

miniman82 09-22-2012 08:18 AM

Just don't expect any special treatment, Roy is equal opportunity- he hates everyone! lol

In reality he's a great guy to deal with, I think the show producers have people get abrasive with him to get him spun up. You can always call his company direct, here's the number to Arbie's Team:

603-724-1943

snelson903 09-22-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3048763)
Just don't expect any special treatment, Roy is equal opportunity- he hates everyone! lol

In reality he's a great guy to deal with, I think the show producers have people get abrasive with him to get him spun up. You can always call his company direct, here's the number to Arbie's Team:

603-724-1943

actually i like roy ,he seem's to get the job done . that outlook he has comes from yrs of working around the general public ,i understand it to well. having my shop for 18 yrs im still trying become a normal person again,boy do i have story's i could tell. lol i started watching that show when i was working on that barn zenith in the basement, when he stopped at the man's house to pick up that tv it cought my attention, and i seen where he was taking it and then i seen you . i hurd what he asked you [ what do you do with those old tv's ] you said you watch the new's everynight on it ,that was funny. im sure most of the drama is made for the show , or nobody would watch.

miniman82 09-22-2012 10:22 AM

Pretty much sums it up. Harry had said that the camera folks wanted him to ask some questions to rile him up, to which Roy replies "if you're gonna ask questions, don't hire me!" Can't say I'd feel any different, that's why you hire the experts after all.

marty59 10-27-2012 12:09 PM

Yes, they are saved!
 
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Okay, let me tell you what I've got here!

The Zenith Space Command is actually a 27KC20Q chassis. Joe actually had it powered up from time to time so I have not been reluctant to turn ons but for short periods of time. Good news is that it plays and the electrolytics run cool. The bad news is that the CRT is "toast". The G1 grids are blued, they're cooked. It's too bad as this was an early replacement Sylvania "Color Bright 85" tube. With nothing to lose I had fun with my Sencore Rejuvinator. After some intense cycling I gave it the max. The red and green actually came up and will track but the blue gun is weak and done for. I could put a brightner on it but I don't believe it will last much longer...:tears:

Loaded with Bumble Bee's, will need recapped and some general attention but has potential. Has that "exclusive" genuine faux finish cabinet and besides a little crazing towards the front edge it is really nice! I don't believe those legs are original. The vertical output cathode cap had been "kinda" replaced and some tubes but no other hacks. I need a convergence cloverleaf for it, broken in two places. I prefer not to have to salvage it but I may have to be creative. Anybody have one?

As for the other Zenith, it's the 24NC31 chassis. The CRT is uniform/strong on all three guns after I cycled my tester on it and the tube went through a bit of a wake up. I found inside a "supposed" list of bad tubes that need replaced that was written on the back of a December 1978 calendar! "Mr. Repairman" also pulled the circuit breaker and upon my inspection the thermister is open. I'm not going to figure out any logic here. I do have the proper replacements and I'll check/replace the tubes myself of course!

Besides a general going through, needing a couple knobs and a clean up this set is not too bad either. It still has the original horizontal output tube! It's on "that list" to be replaced!

So how about those CRT's?? I'm glad you asked.

1). Zenith 21FJP22- Later 60's pull with the typical halo. Shows to have a minor cathode-G1 leakage/short on the red gun but otherwise very strong/uniform on all the guns. My Sencore does a good job on shorts but I'm not going to touch it.

2). RCA 21FJP22- Early 60's pull with the red lettering on the socket. Good/strong emission on all the guns. After just a little cycling of my tester, it now passes the life test! Strange thing about this one is that there's no bonded face and I can't verify if it ever had one or where it went? This tube had been sitting for who knows how long and before the now common practice of removing cataracts became known?? I don't know. Good news is the tube is more applicable as is and no PVA to deal with!

3). Zenith 21FBP22- Early EIA code RCA tube 1962. It tests strong on all the guns as is. Short story on this one!

But wait! There's more!! (If I haven't bored you yet) :D

My initial plan was aquiring all this for the spare CRT's and I knew someone in the area (non-VK'er but a tv guy) that wanted a restorable roundie. Well lo and behold he picked up an Olympic roundie combo. That's ok, just the way it worked out. He's not too close to me but I do want to check out his set and take a picture of it sometime.

I did enjoy the spur of the moment roadtrip! As mentioned earlier in this post, Joe is more of a radio guy and I hope to make it to St. Louis again.

In the meantime, I'm going to have some fun with these sets! One of these CRT's will go into the 27KC20. They do deserve some attention. Due to my space limitations something will have to give but not anytime soon. I am planning on going to the ETF next year so hopefully I'll have a plan in place with what I have by then.

gtojudge 10-28-2012 08:01 PM

Wondering if the 24NC31 chassis Zenith cabinet has some vertical decorative wood trim on the back edge and partially on the side edges of the top of the cabinet? If so, this seems to be the model Zenith my parents bought as their first color TV in 1965! Been looking for this particular set for sentimental reasons for YEARS!!...Nice find, wish I was closer, would love to make a deal on it with you :sigh:

Carmine 11-01-2012 03:16 PM

Is this the style you are looking for? Early American I believe?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nithColor8.jpg

sampson159 11-01-2012 08:53 PM

thats a fine looking zenith.carmine-loves spaghetti.always makes me laugh when i see this

gtojudge 11-24-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmine (Post 3052975)
Is this the style you are looking for? Early American I believe?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nithColor8.jpg

That is the style of the top of the set I was speaking of, but the rest of the 24NC31 chassis Zenith cabinet as shown in Marty59's photo is exactly what my family's first Zenith color TV set was...Brings back a lot of great memories just seeing it! Was a very solidly built set; my brother and I use to climb on top of it and jump off it over and over again, and it never budged!

Dude111 11-24-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mstaton
3 extra CRT's to boot!

Indeed... Good luck and viewing to whoever gets em :)

marty59 11-28-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 3054986)
Indeed... Good luck and viewing to whoever gets em :)

As I mentioned, one of 'em is going into the 27KC20Q set and there may be some use for the others. Right now it's good to have some spares around!

Dude111 11-28-2012 07:06 PM

Yes i do realise that!!! :)

marty59 12-03-2012 11:34 AM

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Well I had a little fun with the 24NC31 over the weekend. This screenshot is actually the second time that I had powered it up. After replacing the bad/marginal tubes, the missing circuit breaker and the open thermister I went through the lengthy turn on with my variac with the sweep tubes out.

The electrolytics stayed cool and voltages came up as normal and no spikes in current. Put the vert and horiz outputs in and variac'ed it slowly and I was greeted with a raster!

This time I connected up a source for the first time. After some basic adjustments and a degausing this set is a performer! Besides my repair and some tube changes, this set has not seen much else in servicing and is quite original. Does need the tuner cleaned, recapped etc. but it's at a good starting point.

I'm still looking for an on/off volume and UHF fine tuning knobs though!

Tom S 12-03-2012 06:39 PM

Very nice Zenith there. Looks as great as my RCA CTC10, Keep the roundies alive.

consoleguy67 12-05-2012 03:36 PM

I have a spare UHF fine tuning knob for that set. PM me.

wa2ise 12-06-2012 07:17 PM

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment...1&d=1354555492

Oh yeah! :banana: The Securities Exchange Commission game! :D

Glenz75 12-06-2012 08:16 PM

Nice! You've got a good one there...:yes:

gtojudge 02-16-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wa2ise (Post 3055994)
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment...1&d=1354555492

Oh yeah! :banana: The Securities Exchange Commission game! :D

WOW! That indeed is the exact Zenith my parents got as our first color TV!!
Would this be considered a 1965 model?

If you ever want to part with this beautiful set, you have a buyer here at the Jersey Shore!

Thanks for the photo and confirming IN COLOR some wonderful memories!

Chris Golda

dieseljeep 02-16-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gtojudge (Post 3062096)
WOW! That indeed is the exact Zenith my parents got as our first color TV!!
Would this be considered a 1965 model?

If you ever want to part with this beautiful set, you have a buyer here at the Jersey Shore!

Thanks for the photo and confirming IN COLOR some wonderful memories!

Chris Golda

Weren't the "N" models considered to be 1966 models.
Always a great performing set. :thmbsp:


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