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Visual 07-20-2013 11:49 PM

VIDEO DATA SYSTEM- the vcr`RDS`system by vps
 
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The
GV-698+
incorporates
WSS
signal (
Wide Screen Signaling
) in 8 formats,
FLOP-TELETEXT
in four languages and
VPS
and
PDC
signals for four countries. All
these signals are individually selectable
.
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Easily programmable PDC and VPS

PDC and VPS test facilities are available optionally with the teletext option. Both systems use control information transmitted with the program to start and stop recording of that program on a VCR. For optimum flexibility, you can use any of nine coded PDC or VPS signals and both types of signal can even be transmitted simultaneously. When testing PDC, you can program PIL (date & time), CNI (country & network), PTY, PTL and the program name. You can even test multi labeling. In VPS mode, you can set information on date, transmission time, country indication, TV channel, stereo/dual/mono sound, adult/general program content and the program name. Special PDC and VPS signals such as timer control code, recording inhibit/terminate code, interruption code and continuation code are also available. Programming of the codes for both PDC and VPS is simple, using the instrument's large display and softkeys.

Jon A. 07-21-2013 12:02 AM

Man, you're really into these things. You should consider launching your own website, a comprehensive guide to the world's best VCRs.

markdi 07-21-2013 01:29 AM

Where is it ? i am lost

There's no place like home

There's no place like home

There's no place like home

markdi 07-21-2013 01:30 AM

Oh kool the picture loaded after i posted

markdi 07-21-2013 01:31 AM

Not in english or my eyes are bad

Ed in Tx 07-21-2013 08:09 AM

Looks like an early attempt at PSIP data sent out by ATSC TV broadcasters today. It's too bad the PSIP data isn't standardized as to how many days of program info they send out. Some only send 8 - 12 hours, others up to 5 days of program info.

Visual 07-21-2013 10:47 PM

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PDC (
Program Delivery Control
)
Systems
PAL B / G / I / D / K selectable ON/OFF
Frequence
6.9375 MHz
Transmission mode
NRZ (no return to zero)
Data line
329 even frame, in a sequence of 400 ms
Content
START, STOP and PAUSE functions selectable.
Country and minute selectable. Month, day and
hour information are fixed to 1.
"0" level
Black level
"1" level
66% ±5% of the white level
VPS
Systems

PAL B / G / D / K selectable ON/OFF
Frequency
5.5 MHz
Transmission mode
Two-phase
Data line
16 odd frame
Content
Function: START, STOP and PAUSE.
Country and minute selectable. Month, day and
hour information are fixed to 1.
"0" level
Black level
"1" level
66% ±5% of the white level
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PDC ON
When pressing this key with the LED turned on activates function
PDC
(
P
rogram
D
elivery
C
ontrol). With the lower LED of
DISPLAY SELECT
turned
on, the information that appears in field
CHANNEL
corresponds to the country
information. The possibilities are
SPA
(Spain)
, UK
(United Kingdom)
, GER
(Germany)
y
FRA
(France). Between field
CHANNEL
and
CH-FREQ
appears
the information of status
STA
(Start),
STO
(Stop) and
PAU
(Pause). In field
CH_FREQ
the time in minutes of the programming of signal
VPS
appears. The
possibilities are
1m and 5m
. The information of month (1), day (1) and hour (1)
is fixed. The choice between the different possibilities is done with the encoder
selecting first the field and then the function.
Signals VPS and PDC always contain the same information.
http://www.volker-schauff.de/techblo...Display006.jpg
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PSIP can also send:

the exact time referenced to UTC and GPS time;the short name, which some stations use to publish their callsign. A maximum of seven characters can be used in a short name.

larschr 07-27-2013 07:38 PM

Later we also had the "Show View" VCR programming system in Europe. Instead of programming the start- and stop time and date, each channel and each program had a code. To program the VCR you entered the station code followed by the program code, and that was it. The VCR would then "listen" to the station which would send out a signal corresponding to the program code when the program actually started. Very useful if the program was re-scheduled. As far as i remember it was not in any way dependent on the VCRs clock to work, but relied strictly on information sent out from the station (theoretically, at least).

Rod Beauvex 07-28-2013 08:56 AM

Isn't that was we called VCR plus here in North America?

Ed in Tx 07-28-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod Beauvex (Post 3077226)
Isn't that was we called VCR plus here in North America?

Sounds similar. I recall they used to publish 5 or 6 (?) digit codes in the TV schedule you could enter with the remote to program your "VCR Plus" equipped VCR.

Visual 07-28-2013 11:27 PM

BY THE way vps system is father on popular later fm rds datacast

and this topic is for were come from automatically channel name on the vcr vfd display

ChrisW6ATV 07-29-2013 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larschr (Post 3077186)
Later we also had the "Show View" VCR programming system in Europe... relied strictly on information sent out from the station (theoretically, at least).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod Beauvex (Post 3077226)
Isn't that was we called VCR plus here in North America?

VCR Plus used codes printed in TV guides. That Show View system seems to have worked on embedded signals-quite interesting.

Europe has had a LOT of nice technologies in their TV broadcasts that we never got here in the USA. Wide-screen standard-definition sets were common before HDTV started, with an automatic signal to change the TV's aspect ratio in each show. Another nice one was Teletext. It was briefly tried in the USA in the late 1980s but never succeeded. When I visited the UK and Ireland in 2000, Teletext was going strong. I used that more on my hotel TV sets than ever watching any programs. They also have (or had) "free view" satellite TV, while we only have (yuck!) expensive Dish Network and DirecTV, though we can get some amount of free satellite signals here with the right combination of equipment.

Those four colored buttons you often see on remote controls got their start with Teletext signals.

Visual 07-29-2013 12:33 PM

yes,here in japan auto format switching muse hd fotmat is also cool,and i try to explain this:thmbsp::yes:
this is rear panels of japanese vcr`s with satelite bluit in tuners and descriptyon on muse hd terminals;also ghoust reduction connectors;etc

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By the way, in that wide-enabled TV showed the fashion in this era, and the letter "WIDE", indicator This is your lucky day. It does not appear to be that recorded for it by automatically recognizing the wide broadcasting, but it will be good or also if comparatively 4:3 source because a principal in private.
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input from additional optical connector of SKY
By the way, it is like a ghost reduction tuner supporhttp://niga2.sytes.net/av/v8k_d.jpginput 3 is a decoder for WOWOW originally.
This is a BS tuner was designed on the assumption that it is combined with the NV-V8000 and NV-FS900 at the BS tuner Panasonic. There was also a ghost-clear tuner.
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Terminal of the tuner-related is concentrated. It is a quite busy terminal group. Because, because you have it corresponds to the MUSE-NTSC converter of high-definition.
http://ura.caldc.com/stannum/decoders/index.htmlhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iew_system.png

ChrisW6ATV 07-30-2013 01:23 AM

Yes, Japan has had the most cool TV technologies of all! When I did visit Akihabara in 2000 and 2003, I thought that I was a child in the biggest candy store in the world. :)

Visual 07-30-2013 01:15 PM

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Visual 11-06-2014 08:24 PM

CLOSED CAPTION DECORDER:thmbsp:http://joeclark.org/appearances/AEA/...eeDecoders.jpg

Jon A. 11-07-2014 08:48 PM

Cool!

I see that the TeleCaption 4000 is quite common. It looks like the ViewStar converter boxes that were quite common in my youth. I'll keep it in mind for my sub-collection of analog cable boxes. For now, I have other priorities.

Chip Chester 11-08-2014 07:31 AM

The Google translation of that link is hilarious.

Set-top caption decoders had developing character sets and capabilities over the years, and present day line-21 captions (on analog cable feeds or VHS/DVDs) may not decode correctly on these boxes. Things like center-of-screen display, for example, will default to top or bottom on older boxes.

Chip

Jon A. 11-08-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip Chester (Post 3119039)
The Google translation of that link is hilarious.

Nevertheless, it makes more sense than most text talk. :D

Visual 12-29-2014 01:02 PM

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Over the Second audio program:yes:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_audio_programhttp://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img211.auc...enue268670.jpghttp://www.avsforum.com/content/type...t/700/flags/LL
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= Hitachi VTMTS2 MTS stereo Adaptor
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svhs 01-23-2019 03:46 AM

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Philips VR727/05 Nicam stereo vcr with Turbo drive

:banana:

https://youtu.be/UtJRs5Wn8UY?t=166

svhs 01-29-2019 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed in Tx (Post 3076327)
Looks like an early attempt at PSIP data sent out by ATSC TV broadcasters today. It's too bad the PSIP data isn't standardized as to how many days of program info they send out. Some only send 8 - 12 hours, others up to 5 days of program info.

IN USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Data_Services
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Extended Data Services (now XDS, previously EDS), is an American standard classified under Electronic Industries Alliance standard CEA-608-E[1] for the delivery of any ancillary data (metadata) to be sent with an analog television program, or any other NTSC video signal.

XDS is used by TV stations, TV networks, and TV program syndication distributors in the US for several purposes.

Here are some of the most common uses of XDS:

The "autoclock" system delivers time data via an XDS "Time-of-Day Packet" for automatically setting the clock of newer TVs & VCRs sold in the US. Most PBS stations provide this service.
Rudimentary program information which can be displayed on-screen, such as the name and remaining time of the program,
Station identification,
IN EUROPE
By
Radio Data System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_..._Time_and_Data
Clock Time and Data
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12VB-34gh7E
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ONKYO Feature Accuclock
autoclockhttps://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6bwAA...qa/s-l1600.jpghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgsGW5OK9M
https://data2.manualslib.com//pdf2/4...nual_11_bg.jpg
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/46...page=11#manual

svhs 01-29-2019 03:59 PM

:yes:
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Does anybody really know what time it is?

For much of the past year, self-setting clocks on some videocassette recorders (VCRs) around the United States were showing the wrong time. In portions of the San Francisco Bay area, the clocks were 24 minutes fast. In other parts of the country, they were 1, 2, or 3 hours slow.

Affected VCRs could not be programmed to record television shows when the codes published in program guides were used, and users trying to program their VCRs manually had to recalculate program times by taking the time errors into consideration.

The hunt for the source of the errors is a quirky tale that shows that for even simple systems to work correctly, every link in the chain that connects them to the user must be checked and double-checked. The story also is ironic, in that the "flashing 12:00" of VCRs came, over the years, to be used as a symbol of technologies made too complex. But the autoclock feature that fixed the VCR's flashing 12:00 added problems of its own.

The problems started a year or more ago, but took a long time to be discovered because, it turns out, while thousands of users were affected by the errors, few noticed or cared. (Perhaps the rest were accustomed to VCR-clocks that blink 12:00.)

"If we get an inordinate amount of calls to our customer service center about a specific problem, we are flagged that something is wrong," said Tom Hantson, Panasonic Corp.'s national product manager for VCRs, in Secaucus, N.J. "Even though this had been going on for as much as a year, that didn't happen. Perhaps that means that not as many people are using their timers as we had thought."

It took an enterprising newspaper columnist, David L. Wilson, of the San Jose Mercury News, along with an annoyed consumer complaining about his VCR problems, to bring these clock faults out of the dark and identify, eventually, one source of the failures.

In July, Wilson heard from a reader who had returned two VCRs because of autoclock problems--the clocks on both VCRs ran 24 minutes fast. Did Wilson know what was wrong?

Wilson called the manufacturer's technology support line, and was told that the problem must be a bad timing signal from a Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) station (which turned out to be the right answer). He then called a few certified repair shops. Their response was it must be a chip problem. He then talked to executives at the VCR manufacturer's headquarters.

"They were totally freaked out," Wilson told IEEE Spectrum. "They were thinking they had a chip manufacturing problem, and they wanted to get their hands on the VCR. So they got the customer to swap it for their top-of-the-line model--which also displayed the time 24 minutes fast.

After Wilson published the story of the unsolved VCR clock mystery, he quickly heard from hundreds of readers who were having the same problem with just about every brand of VCR manufactured. It was clearly no single manufacturer's fault.

So whose fault was it?

To trace the source of the error requires first an understanding of the workings of the now ubiquitous autoclock (not many VCR manuals tell you this). Autoclock was developed by PBS, Alexandria, Va., under a grant from Sony Corp., with the goal of making VCRs easier for users--no more blinking "12:00." Whenever an autoclock VCR is turned off, it scans the TV channels, starting with channel 2 and going up. It is looking for a digital time stamp, sent by most PBS stations during the vertical blanking interval, the time during which the electron beam tracing the screen rasters is turned off, having reached the end of the screen and having to return to the beginning of the screen.

This time stamp is coded as part of the extended data service (XDS), a standard used in Europe to send teletext information. Once autoclock finds a time stamp, it uses the data to set or correct its clock. (Some VCRs give users the option of choosing a local PBS channel from which the time signal should be extracted, but most users never figure this out.)

Wilson, meanwhile, was calling a number of the PBS affiliates in the Bay Area. When he contacted Channel 54, San Jose's KTEH, which is the primary PBS broadcaster for San Jose and much of the surrounding area, he found out that the station had not had a chief engineer on duty for more than a year. During that time, it appears, something happened to the XDS clock. The newly hired chief engineer, Carl Rieg, tested the clock signal and confirmed that it was 24 minutes fast. But not knowing what piece of equipment generated the signal, he could not immediately adjust it.

While Rieg was trying to track down documentation that would enable him to fix the problem, Wilson was still gathering information. He called PBS's central engineering facility in Alexandria, Va., and talked to Andy Butler, chief engineer. Butler thought that he ought to talk to Rieg himself.

"Rieg," Butler told Spectrum, "had come from commercial television. He didn't even know that the XDS clock existed, much less that it needed to be checked periodically. And there were no manuals at the station documenting the device." (In some stations, XDS maintenance has become computerized, with a computer hooked up to the XDS box and to the Internet. The computer regularly checks the Internet for the correct time and updates the XDS box accordingly.)

So in a series of phone conversations, PBS engineers walked Rieg through the fix. "Most of the conversations were us on this end trying to describe the box to him as he walked around looking for it," Butler said. "Once he found it, it took 10 minutes to fix." The XDS unit is a black, single-rack box located somewhere in a television studio or among the associated transmitter gear. The fix involved attaching a computer through the serial port of the XDS and resetting the time. (Pretty much any computer will do, since "talking" to the clock requires just using a terminal emulation program.)

Meanwhile, the PBS engineering staff in Virginia was working on another autoclock-related problem. Local PBS stations around the country were getting occasional calls about clock errors from savvy VCR users who knew that PBS was responsible for sending out the signals that set autoclocks. In some places the clocks were consistently 1 hour off, in other places 2, in other places 3. And the problems, which PBS began hearing about in 1999, seemed to be increasing.

"It took almost a year from the first time we heard about it until we figured out what was going on," Butler told Spectrum. These kinds of things are difficult to sort out, he said. "For example, if your TV picture looks funny, is it because of a problem with your cable system, the broadcast station, or your TV? Even that can be hard to determine."

PBS engineers identified the source of the 1-, 2-, and 3-hour problems by comparing notes with their colleagues at several PBS stations around the country. This identification occurred at about the same time the San Jose problem was being solved. The culprit was Fox Broadcasting Corp., which, over the past year, had been signing new affiliates and rapidly increasing its market penetration.

Fox, it turned out, was including XDS clock signals on its network feeds from Los Angeles. The network had planned to distribute local XDS clock signals, like PBS, and was going to use the Los Angeles signals to synchronize the local clocks. However, some Fox affiliates were neglecting to install XDS equipment locally. At these stations, the Los Angeles time codes were being broadcast unaltered. Since in many television markets the local Fox affiliates are assigned to lower channels (frequently 2 or 5) than the local PBS affiliates, VCRs that started scanning for a clock signal on channel 2 found the Fox signal before the PBS signal and reset their clocks--to the correct time in Los Angeles.

Again, as with the KTEH autoclock, whereas finding the source of the Fox error was time-consuming, solving the problem was not. Fox, in effect, turned off its clock, stopping the transmission of XDS signals altogether.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIA-60...d_Data_Service
Telda S.Perry, Editor

Chip Chester 01-29-2019 11:57 PM

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I'll just throw this in here, as 'tangentially related'...

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http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...5&d=1548828103

Don't know if it'll reset VCR clocks, though.

svhs 02-01-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chip Chester (Post 3208046)
I'll just throw this in here, as 'tangentially related'...

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...1&d=1548827804

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php...5&d=1548828103

Don't know if it'll reset VCR clocks, though.

THANKS

nice picture from your iPhone 6s:tresbon:
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A digital access and cross-connect system (DACS) is a telecommunication-specific circuit-switching device that is used to route voice/data among cross-connected T1/E1 carrier lines.

DACS is used in telecommunication networks to connect various carrier channels that exist in voice and data carriers. DACS enables these carriers to connect with each other and their specific channels as well. DACS supports connectivity among DS0 and DS1 channels used for transporting voice and data/voice respectively. DACS also supports higher level carriers such as T3/E3, synchronous optical networking (SONET) and synchronous digital hierarchy (SDH).

Chip Chester 02-01-2019 09:43 AM

This is a different DACS than the telecom one. This recovers and manages date from the vertical interval of the NTSC video system. PBS encoded data at the satellite head end, and member stations selectively downloaded and trafficked the data according to various national contracts (like the VISA card hot-list). System was also used for inter-network communication in the pre-internet days.

Hadn't touched this thing in 15 years or so, but it booted right up. Don't have a manual, but I do have devices that can encode VBI data. This device was made by EEG, who also made the first closed caption encoders. It's the product of engineers leveraging the data-carrying capability of the vertical interval.

And yeah, 6s rocks because it's the last of the real headphone jacks. Dangit. :)

svhs 02-10-2019 11:35 AM

Programming of PDC/VPS
Header: PDCDATA | VPSDATA
Data element: NR1
Remark: NR1 is the set number, a string with the complete PDC or VPS data,
and a string with the program title.
The data sets 1 to 4 are programmable.
The format of the first string is:
DD.MM, HH:MM, Country, Network, PTY, Reserved bits, Flags.
The ranges are:
0 to 31 for day and hour,
0 to 15 for month and flags,
0 to 63 for minutes,
0 to 255 for country, network and program type (PTY),
0 to 3 for reserved bits,
0 to 15 for the flags (PDC only).
For the flags value the MSB bit is the PRF, the MSB -1 is the LUF bit,
and the two LSB bits are the LCI bits.
The separators in the string may be a full stop, colon, comma, or a
space. The second string may contain any printable ASCII character
except ' " ' or ' ' '. Its length is at most 20 characters.
Example: PDCD 3,"27.12,12:00,123,23,255,0,0","Gentlemen Gangsters"
VPSD 3,"27.12,12:00,123,23,255,0","Gentlemen Gangsters"
writes the PDC/VPS data for date (27.12), time (12:00), country (123),
Network (23), PTY (255), reserved bits (0), flags for PDC (0), and the
program title as set number 3 into the memoryhttps://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KIAAA...F2/s-l1600.jpg
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The clock is set automatically during ACMS
(Automatic Channel Memory System) when your
VCR detects a channel that broadcasts a
Teletext signal. If the broadcast signal is weak
the clock will not be set and will require setting
manually.

svhs 03-04-2019 11:56 PM

Philips VHS VCR model VR312 from 1992 with the Charly Deck Mechanism:banana:https://youtu.be/Lw9TY8Z1B7k?t=285VDS+ SCROLLING INFO TEXT

Electronic M 03-05-2019 06:44 PM

A VHS deck with a Betamax type threading mech...Now I've seen everything! :smshot:

svhs 01-13-2021 03:50 PM

If
you
prefer
SAP,
use
the
2ND
AUDIO/SAP
option.
On
those
stations
which
broadcast
two
audio
portions,
you
will
hear
the
SAP
(usually
a
second
language).
When
the
SAP
broadcast
ends,
the
TV
switches
automatically
between
STEREO
and
MONO
modes.
The
TV
switches
back
to
2ND
AUDIO/SAP
when
the
SAP
broadcast
resumes
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Five
different
selections
can
be
made:
OFF,
CAP-
TION
1,
CAPTION
2,
TEXT
I
or
TEXT
2.


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