Spending time with Fred and Barney
 

Spending a little quality time with the Flintstones.

Nice! Is that a Zenith? Not RCA knobs?

Yabba dabba doooo!!!!!

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Attachment 200524 This was on my 1967 Zenith

Zenith 25mc33 chassis
 

Thanks,

I got that set from a guy up in lower Michigan, Had to change crt, crt socket assembly, rebuild the Chroma circuit.

I had a set just like this one back in 1965

IMO both Rca and Zenith produced their finest chassis in that year the ctc 16

and Zenith's 25mc33

Interesting that the titles were not in the safe area for roundies given that at the time the show was originally created in color many if not most sets would have been roundies???

If the source is MeTV which broadcasts The Flintstones, they partially zoom in on a lot of the old 4:3 shows to help fill out a 16:9 screen without cutting off too much of the top and bottom, which may answer why it doesn't fit the roundie viewing area.

Your first? My future brother-in-law had one like yours in that time period.

This RCA was my first, one year out of high school, purchased new, August, 1966 after saving my nickels and dimes. I found one on EBay 6 years ago. Kinda neat to find your first color TV.

https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-co...C5D2AB4B3.jpeg

ctc 7
 

When I got a job in high school I bought a used ctc 7 in 1962

ctc 9
 

I have a ctc 9 in a museum out near you, it's an automobile museum but he also has some period pieces on display.

Hi to all,

Here's my first color TV, a 1967 30 tube job made by ITT-Oceanic. 1st generation Color in France for the intro of color TV in Oct 1967. Very complicated as dual standard 819 line B&W + 625 SECAM color. An unusual feature is an EM87 "Magic Eye" ribon tuning indicator. Price when new was 4500 French Francs, +/- the price of a cheap car.

I got the set in 1970 (i was 17) a gift from a well-healed person who was upgrading to a newer model. Back then, i new nothing about color TV repair, just theoretical stuff, so i purchased all the books i could find (5) and tackled the set from page 1, chapter 1.
No advice & no Internet forums back then.
Found out it had 3 faults (V Scan, Convergence board component failures and color decoder dead "permutator" diodes.
Once fixed, i then spent considerable time converging the set (19 controls in total) and a real PIA because of the dual line scan rates.
Also changed all the power tubes in the H/V sections & EHT power supply.
Because of the 450VA power consumption & 30 tubes, i left the back off for the rest of its life & posted a Danger! Warning! HV on my room's door to keep anyone from entering & "dusting".
The TV ran beautifully thereafter without one failure until i left home in 1977.
My father then used it until the early 80s when he purchased a new Sony 19" Trinitron. The Oceanic was given away.

I owe to this set a solid founding foundation in color TV circuitry, theory & practice. I took 4 months to cover everything & learn Scope waveforms via a Kyoritsu 3 MHz single trace tube oscilloscope with AC-only coupling.

Beware of tube sources !
Some of my power section tubes bore the RFT label. Now unknown to me, RFT tubes were DDR manufactured & had lousy/no quality control. A brand new EL519 H output tube red-plated instantly upon power on. Pulled the plug ASAP & saved my flyback.
The EL519 was supposedly a higher power rating replacement for the original EL509.
Needless to say, they all went back to the shop & traded against Philips/Telefunken tubes at much higher cost.

My 2 cents contribution to this memory lane thread...

PS : i have the complete DVD bookcase collection of the Flinstones.

Best Regards
jhalphen
Paris/France

Hi Jerome! That advert is amazing, specifying the RF sensitivity and the audio power output. Such specs would never be advertised in the US (well, maybe audio power, but only for a combination console, never for a table model).

Hi Wayne,

Hope you're well.

If you're interested, i can send to your Mail address (it's on your web site i suppose) the entire 1968-1970 catalogue, 14 pages. Ihe article covers all brands with the same level of detail.

Some interesting sets are the multi-standard models PAL CCIR + SECAM for regions bordering Germany, Switzerland & Holland.
Also an advanced Pizon-Bros 15" set, entirely transistorized except the EHT rectifier. Beat the Sony KV-1220 series which appeared in 1972.

No roundies there, Europe started color service 13 years! after America.

Best Regards
jhalphen
Paris/France

That Zenith at the top of this thread looks great !

There are some roundies in Europe, however, as Philips made some sets for (I believe) the Canadian market in the early 60's. There were a handful of models using the K4 chassis and RCA 21FBP22s, and most of them had quite beautiful cabinets! Some Dutch and UK collectors have some restored and working.

Hi to all,

Hi Alan, you are right of course, for instance Marcel's TV Museum shows a prototype Philips set with a 21" RCA round CRT :

http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/photoalbum30.html

All color CRTs in Europe were imported from the US (roundies only) until 1963 when a new factory built by a Philips subsidiary (La RadioTechnique-Compelec) started producing the rectangular A6311X in Dreux, France. They had 4 years to gear up production for the French/German/English start of color in the fall of 1967.

in my previous post with the data on the Oceanic French color TV, i was stating that in the 1968/69/70 lineup, all CRTs were rectangular.

I extracted the Oceanic spec sheet from 14 pages of a French magazine "Le Haut-Parleur" which published a yearly Radio/TV special issue listing all models on the market.

I sent the 14 pages to our friend Old_TVNut, maybe he'll include them on his site.

Best Regards
jhalphen

I had one just like that in the middle 60's
 

I have to say Zenith definitely put quality into their early stuff. Part of the reason why the old Zenith's hold up is they put the tubes on top of the chassis and passive components below the base plate.

I set these thing all by eye, haven't used cross hatch in years.

Thanks for the nudge - I didn't think of it at first.

http://www.bretl.com/documents/1969-...chcolorTVs.pdf

Those pictures of the Flintstones made me realize that all my growing up years when Saturday morning cartoons were on all morning, I would of been watching those in B/W. Thinking about it now, your never really miss what you never had. At 60 years old I realize now that I went through an era where everyone grew up with B/W tv and transistioned into glorious color tv. Now these days with technology it seems like that's almost a daily event in today's world. Where one day some marvel of technology doesn't exist and then the next day it is for sale somewhere. Recently I was watching my all time favorite morning Hanna Barbera cartoon Johny Quest on DVD. Oh the places around the globe he visited because of his fathers job as a scientist. educational without letting us know that it was.

In the beginning if you had a color set your viewing habits were different than those with B & W. First thing is you got a copy of tv guide which showed the color programs for the next week. In our area we were especially lucky, we WMAQ the countries first local color station, then WGN jumped on the color bandwagon in the very early 60's. Funny thing was after 1966 when most shows went to color, the newness and novelty of color didn't have the same glimmer. Then once more and more people got color you found out most of them didn't have a clue as to how to set their tv's up for optimum viewing.

I lived in Ft. Worth TX, and we were also very lucky, our Channel 5 WBAP got color
locally in 1954 and very soon (months) went to all color local programming.
We did not have a color set, but my uncle did right from the start, and our next door neighbor soon after. We were only 4 miles from the station so got great signals.

I love the flinstones http://www.videokarma.org/images/smilies/smile.gif


Thank you!!!!!!!

Early porthole?

Very early...predates mechanical TVs by thousands of years. Back then they made a picture by having a humming bird fly in from the studio and wave a lightning bug around the screen. :D

Until later in the 60's if there was a color program on, you generally didn't have to worry about another color show being on. The TV guide had a section by the index that would show color programs coming on for the week ahead.

I was only 7 years old then
 

I was seven in 1954, but I did get a chance to see a couple of color shows later in the fifties.

In 1966, most sets were rectangular - and the CRT type ended in a "4".

Jobs
 

What did Barney do for a Living ?

Didn't he work at the same quarry as Fred?

This.

Looking at those images, it's obvious that the text extends beyond the safe title area even for a rectangular tube.

Barney's Occupation
 

Barney Rubble is the secondary main character and Fred's best friend and next-door neighbor. His occupation is, for the most part of the series, unknown, though later episodes depict him working in the same quarry as Fred.

From Wikipedia

I think its interesting that in the ad for your TV that it calls the tubes "transistors".

A typo perhaps? :scratch2:

Because as far as I know tubes and transistors are two completely different things.

No typo. Look more closely at the ad. They show both transistors and tubes at the bottom of the ad. This set contained both transistors and tubes.

Hi to all,

Thanks to Tom9589 for correcting, the Oceanic TV had 30 tubes & 7 transistors.
UHF tuner was transistorized, from memory, nothing else.

Best Regards
jhalphen
in (deserted) Paris
France

My job in high school was fixing television and radios in my home shop, so my family's first color sets were customer's sets I was burning in to make sure they were repaired correctly.:D

It was several years of that before my parents got a hand me down......wait for it......RCA CTC16! Fixed it up and it ran until replaced by a Zenith all solid state in the early 80s.

All those early RCAs were sweet performers, the 16 no exception. Dad bought our first color TV in 1959, an Admiral with the RCA built CTC11 and 21" round tube in it. We ran that until 1976 or so.

John

Those were the magical days of color. You knew it existed, you may have seen it in department stores and the shows were few and far between. I still have memories of seeing color in the later 50's, I believe it was the price is right.