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Adam 01-01-2022 09:36 PM

old light fixtures and lamps
 
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I haven't had much free time lately, but just had two weeks off, and mostly worked on the house. The most interesting thing I've been working on is probably the light fixtures.

The same woman lived here from when the house was new (1967) until 2019, but then it switched owners twice and the second guy messed up some things - one of which was replacing most of the original light fixtures with new crappy plastic ones.

Here's some of older ones I installed:kitchen, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms

Adam 01-01-2022 09:46 PM

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Also been repairing some lamps: I've gotten into these ones where there's a girl holding up the light.

Adam 01-01-2022 09:57 PM

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Two light fixtures I'm still working on: a retractable one I'm going to put in the dining room, and an older one (probably 1920s) I want to put in the living room.

Has anyone had one of these retractable ones? Are they supposed to stay down when you retract them, or always pull up unless you are holding it? If its supposed to stay down, something is not right with mine.

Electronic M 01-02-2022 12:00 AM

I think they are supposed to stay down. I've seen a couple of the same model in my area set to different heights.

I've been collecting cool looking MCM table, desk and floor lamps my self, I've got a couple of ceiling fixtures from 30s, but not yet having my own house I haven't had much desire to hoard built in fixtures I can't install and use.

fixmeplease 01-02-2022 12:13 PM

Im unsure what you mean by retract but some things were done with lighting to make them easier to clean and maintain, something you dont see anymore.

I like the glass parts you pictured. But they are all nice.

init4fun 01-02-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3238556)
I think they are supposed to stay down. I've seen a couple of the same model in my area set to different heights.

Tom is right, they are supposed to stay wherever you want them to, and not retract once you take your hand off of them. Of course, this goes for a fully assembled lamp only, the full as designed weight of the lamp must be present for the lamp counterweight spring to be able to hold it in place...

DavGoodlin 01-12-2022 09:59 AM

:sigh:I have a house that predates electricity, so I would be a bit silly to re-fit LED sources into a bunch of sconce candle holders, tinware and oil lamps.

Those 1960s pictures bring back memories - I lived that era and was into anything electrical at age 5, when everybody had a "flying saucer" pull down light over their kitchen table. GE even offered 50 watt A19 lamps then and Westinghouse sold "Eye-saving" frosted bulbs with flat sides, a unique design continued by Philips.

On the other hand, I prefer to use machine-age 1920s-30s pre-war lighting I see in old Westinghouse and GE full-line electrical catalogs. The lights in Adams #3 post is a great example of what I use. I have plenty of incandescent stuff in my basement but I also donate much of my excess to Habitat ReStore

Electro44 01-17-2022 09:43 AM

It’s funny I bought a house built the same year as yours 30 years ago… It was all original including carpeting and wallpaper. I replaced everything including all the light fixtures. But me being as I am… I saved everything up in the attic. About five years ago I reinstalled each and everyone of them! So I guess I like the way you think.

DavGoodlin 01-21-2022 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Electro44 (Post 3238880)
It’s funny I bought a house built the same year as yours 30 years ago… It was all original including carpeting and wallpaper. I replaced everything including all the light fixtures. But me being as I am… I saved everything up in the attic. About five years ago I reinstalled each and everyone of them! So I guess I like the way you think.

:thmbsp:all our lights here were from the 50s, not cool either just surface-mounts shaped like mixer bowls with 2-3 lamps each. Those are in boxes in the attic now, thanks for reminding me:D.

Jeffhs 01-21-2022 06:56 PM

The house I grew up in had a light above the kitchen table, shaped like a bowl but at the end of a chain. The light itself was at the end of the chain, with the bulb and its socket inside a removable glass globe. I've never seen anything like that since then; must have been a design unique to the 1950s (the house was built in 1954). This light must have been built like the proverbial tank, as it was still in place in the kitchen, with the original socket (unless it was replaced at least once; if it was, I don't remember), when I moved out in 1999. It still worked, which spoke volumes for the manner in which these things were built in the 1950s.

I haven't been back in my old neighborhood in years, so I don't know whether that light is still in the kitchen anymore; for all I know, the new owners of the house may have replaced it with, Heaven forbid, a modern one made of plastic. The apartment I live in today has a large ceiling fan in the front room (which is actually nearly the entire apartment, as this is a one-bedroom place) with a chandelier (three bulbs) below it.

dieseljeep 01-23-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffhs (Post 3238998)
The house I grew up in had a light above the kitchen table, shaped like a bowl but at the end of a chain. The light itself was at the end of the chain, with the bulb and its socket inside a removable glass globe. I've never seen anything like that since then; must have been a design unique to the 1950s (the house was built in 1954). This light must have been built like the proverbial tank, as it was still in place in the kitchen, with the original socket (unless it was replaced at least once; if it was, I don't remember), when I moved out in 1999. It still worked, which spoke volumes for the manner in which these things were built in the 1950s.

I haven't been back in my old neighborhood in years, so I don't know whether that light is still in the kitchen anymore; for all I know, the new owners of the house may have replaced it with, Heaven forbid, a modern one made of plastic. The apartment I live in today has a large ceiling fan in the front room (which is actually nearly the entire apartment, as this is a one-bedroom place) with a chandelier (three bulbs) below it.

Those fixtures probably had porcelain sockets instead the cheap bakelite sockets. Many users used too large of a wattage lamps and burned the sockets, so the fixture had to be replaced.

walterbeers 01-29-2022 08:53 PM

Here's an odd one that someone made on youtube
 
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https://www.facebook.com/faithduck/v...1821523985441/

Adam 02-12-2022 09:19 AM

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I finally gave up on the retracting mechanism and just put the light up at a set length. The spiral spring in there was bent back on itself and I tried to bend it back - but that didn't work, it just broke. Then, I pulled the spring out of another lamp - but that one didn't have enough springiness left in it to actually pull the lamp back up after it was down. It looks good even if it doesn't retract, I'll post a picture later.

I'm working on that 1920s one now, and I want to strip all the old paint off it and repaint it, but am not having much luck finding paint in a similar color (I was hoping to just find spray paint in a can) - it's sort of a nonmetallic copper color. Has anyone found anything that looks good for these?

MadMan 02-13-2022 01:53 AM

The old 1920s light might've been gold leafed. I've seen a handful from around here that were... and always got painted over. Painted so many times the paint got so thick it fell off in chunks and revealed beautiful gold underneath.

I've just painted a 1970s typewriter in rustoleum hammered copper. It's a nice color. A little bit metallic. Doesn't really show the hammertone unless you really lay it on thick. Which is a blessing and a curse.

Telecolor 3007 03-03-2022 06:50 AM

Oh, this topic is good for Steven's heart.
I have some old German books. One from 1928 about Light and ilumination and other from 1943 (yes, 1943) about building electrical instalations for houses (they are mentioning phones too). From the 1943 I can see what Romanian copyed from Germans :D
In postwar Romania they used porcelain + ebonite to make scrwebases. Later they used only ebonite or plastic. But that ebonite was of good qualty, made to stand up for 100 light bulbs. After 1989 the imported a lot of crap.
At my maternal granparents there is the living room an multiple arm lamp (in Romanian they are called lustră (sg.) - lustre (pl.) ) dating from the '60's. The arms ome kind of Copper or painted iron ... those thing where made to last. I can see sometimes on windows old lustre, made before the '70's (or mid-'70's).
Here is an old ad. Banat is the region where the factory is (the old one was demolished, they built a new one):

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e1/16/fa/e...02cd14eebf.jpg

Banat also means banned in Romanian.

At my paternal grandparents (from where I got the 'Telecolor') there was a kind of saucer-dish that is at my father now. Don't know if it or Romania origin or imported.
I have at the entrance hall/coridor a lamp that imitates a gas lamp. Bakelite or plastic fitting, but of good qualty.

init4fun 03-03-2022 12:38 PM

That poor lady needs a good cheeseburger, or few...... :sigh:

willy3486 07-13-2023 06:18 AM

My wife and I bought a portable building to set up for our hobbies, she does sewing and I do old electronics.Its a 12x40 building and we are decorating it with old items, I have lots of old TV and other shop advertising stuff. Anyway I found some of the old green porcelain lights you use to see everywhere. I also had a old hay lift from a barn I dismantled for the lumber.

We needed a light for the hallway between the two areas and I had seen lights made like this so I made it. I really like it as it goes along with the rest of the stuff we have to decorate the shop. I have got five of the green shades for what one usually goes for. I have a lot of old signs and display from old TV shops I have been buying for years to go into the building. We wanted to decorate it to remind a person of the old stores you use to see years ago.

http://videokarma.org/picture.php?al...pictureid=3934

http://videokarma.org/picture.php?al...pictureid=3933

Alex KL-1 07-25-2023 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by willy3486 (Post 3251985)
My wife and I bought a portable building to set up for our hobbies, she does sewing and I do old electronics.Its a 12x40 building and we are decorating it with old items, I have lots of old TV and other shop advertising stuff. Anyway I found some of the old green porcelain lights you use to see everywhere. I also had a old hay lift from a barn I dismantled for the lumber.

We needed a light for the hallway between the two areas and I had seen lights made like this so I made it. I really like it as it goes along with the rest of the stuff we have to decorate the shop. I have got five of the green shades for what one usually goes for. I have a lot of old signs and display from old TV shops I have been buying for years to go into the building. We wanted to decorate it to remind a person of the old stores you use to see years ago.

http://videokarma.org/picture.php?al...pictureid=3934

http://videokarma.org/picture.php?al...pictureid=3933

Great! My wife and me also are planning to built a space for our hobbies, but we only have space here if we build other floor above...
My wife like old lamp fixtures (me too), but normally this things are expensive here when we finally find one on antiques shops...

dieseljeep 07-25-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 3239441)
I finally gave up on the retracting mechanism and just put the light up at a set length. The spiral spring in there was bent back on itself and I tried to bend it back - but that didn't work, it just broke. Then, I pulled the spring out of another lamp - but that one didn't have enough springiness left in it to actually pull the lamp back up after it was down. It looks good even if it doesn't retract, I'll post a picture later.

I'm working on that 1920s one now, and I want to strip all the old paint off it and repaint it, but am not having much luck finding paint in a similar color (I was hoping to just find spray paint in a can) - it's sort of a nonmetallic copper color. Has anyone found anything that looks good for these?

We had one of those pull-down dinette table fixtures I installed in a place we rented. After installing it, lamped it with the proper wattage lamps and installed the grass diffuser. After an hour, the glass shattered! I know, I didn't overtighten it. We replaced it with a cheap plastic replacement.
We only moved the height a few times in the ten years we lived there! :thumbsdn:

willy3486 07-25-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex KL-1 (Post 3252200)
Great! My wife and me also are planning to built a space for our hobbies, but we only have space here if we build other floor above...
My wife like old lamp fixtures (me too), but normally this things are expensive here when we finally find one on antiques shops...

I got lucky and got these really cheap. They popped up on Facebook marketplace and I contacted the lady. They had been used in a small downtown building used for a restaurant. The woman and her husband bought the building and gutted it to redo. I paid for five for about what one goes for. Deals are out there you just have to get lucky and find them. There is someone who sells new parts on Etsy at a decent price.

mr_rye89 09-06-2023 12:00 AM

I dig the lights in the opening post. Grandma's house vibes for sure.:thmbsp:

At work I pulled a bunch of hot dipped galvanized chandeliers with glass shades out of an old Golden Corral back in 2012, probably 1990s vintage. I installed them in our current warehouse late in 2021. They hang above a wood dance floor surrounded by big ass doors from India. Looks pretty cool actually.....

Dude111 09-06-2023 02:00 AM

Nice pics everyone!!!!!

mr_rye89 09-08-2023 10:36 AM

Pics or it didn’t happen :smoke:

https://flic.kr/p/2p1KA7i

https://flic.kr/p/2p1Ej7p


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