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Yamamaya42 06-18-2022 12:48 PM

Happy 4th of July! CTC-16XL!
 
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0618221239b.jpg

:D

old_tv_nut 06-18-2022 01:24 PM

Nice!

etype2 06-18-2022 04:56 PM

https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-co...DE680CE66.jpeg

Looking good. My first color set purchased new in 1966. Very similar.

Popester 06-20-2022 01:52 PM

It’s a tad early, but it’s a nice picture.

Yamamaya42 06-21-2022 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popester (Post 3242368)
It’s a tad early, but it’s a nice picture.

Not really! :D

Have already been seeing Independence Day themed advertisements on the main networks for some time now! :P

And I'm sure that the Halloween ones will start mid Aug!

Electronic M 06-21-2022 11:08 AM

It'd kinda be funny if someone worked out the forward march of companies rolling out holiday themed stuff and extrapolated what year we will start celebrating Christmas exactly a year early. :D :tongue:

Yamamaya42 06-21-2022 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3242393)
It'd kinda be funny if someone worked out the forward march of companies rolling out holiday themed stuff and extrapolated what year we will start celebrating Christmas exactly a year early. :D :tongue:

Christmas stuff will be in stores and the commercials on TV at the stroke of midnight on 10/31 as always! :D

zenith2134 06-21-2022 11:56 AM

That set looks fantastic.
Nice to see these things being preserved. From a BETTER TIME!

Electronic M 06-21-2022 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3242394)
Christmas stuff will be in stores and the commercials on TV at the stroke of midnight on 10/31 as always! :D

Right at the end of the movie Santa VS Satan. :D

old_tv_nut 07-02-2022 03:29 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4912a195_c.jpg

init4fun 07-02-2022 07:01 PM

Very nice ! Thank You Old TV Nut, and Happy 4th to you too :thmbsp:

zenith2134 07-03-2022 11:23 AM

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Happy Independence Day Weekend to everyone!
Have fun and be healthy.
God Bless the USA

old_tv_nut 07-01-2023 09:37 PM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6572f7d3_c.jpg

nasadowsk 07-02-2023 05:23 AM

Out of curiosity, what was the difference between the CTC-16 and the CTC-16XL? I’ve heard both are basically the best of the roundies made by RCA, but are the two chassis that different?

damen 07-02-2023 11:40 AM

I know they used different flybacks, same connections, just different construction. Also, the "X" versions used a 6JC6 for the 3rd If and burst amp tubes in place of the 6EH7 and 6EW6 in the earlier chassis.

dieseljeep 07-03-2023 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damen (Post 3251775)
I know they used different flybacks, same connections, just different construction. Also, the "X" versions used a 6JC6 for the 3rd If and burst amp tubes in place of the 6EH7 and 6EW6 in the earlier chassis.

You're thinking about the difference between the 16E and the 16X. It seems that the 16E came out in early 1965 and the 16X came out in late 1965, as a '66 model.

Yamamaya42 07-03-2023 12:49 PM

also, the 16x had the 21FJP22A vs the 21FJP22, being that the A had truer colors.

http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231228b.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227c.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227.jpg

:tears:

still fighting with a crappy camera and lighting :(

nasadowsk 07-04-2023 08:32 PM

Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

dieseljeep 07-05-2023 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3251813)
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

The CTC16X used a 2AV2.
A CTC16E I worked on had a 1V2, where the dropping resistor was bad. I jumped the resistor and installed a 2AV2. Noted the change on the TLD. :scratch2:

dieseljeep 07-05-2023 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3251790)
also, the 16x had the 21FJP22A vs the 21FJP22, being that the A had truer colors.

http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231228b.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227c.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227.jpg

:tears:

still fighting with a crappy camera and lighting :(

The "X" model had a rare-earth 21FJP22!

nasadowsk 07-06-2023 07:22 AM

Heh, yeah a 1V2 in there would glow. The tube I pulled was a 2AV2…

Was the 16XL the first RCA to use that tube?

dieseljeep 07-06-2023 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3251832)
Heh, yeah a 1V2 in there would glow. The tube I pulled was a 2AV2…

Was the 16XL the first RCA to use that tube?

The 16X, 17X and the newer chassis used them. Around the same time the other firms, that used a tube focus rectifier started to use them! It saved a dropping resistor! :yes:

nasadowsk 07-06-2023 11:18 AM

I always found it weird the 15 used a solid state focus rect, but they went back to tubes again. Cost? Reliability?

Yamamaya42 07-06-2023 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nasadowsk (Post 3251813)
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

You used to be able to find them sold in pairs, " workman" or whatnot, but now, finding any of them intact on sites like evil-bay takes quite a bit of luck, it still may be done if you keep looking.

Yamamaya42 07-06-2023 01:03 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22547050426...Bk9SR461sMWlYg

example

one for a CTC-20

No reason for it not to work in a ctc-16

Yamamaya42 07-06-2023 04:04 PM

And BOOM. someone nabbed it already! :o

nasadowsk 07-07-2023 05:28 AM

Yup :)


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