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Chris K 03-27-2023 08:07 AM

Next Up...Little, but Heavy GE 14"
 
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Working 14T-007 tabletop model that works on all original components. Probably replace the cans and the waxies and pray I don't break it!

dieseljeep 03-27-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris K (Post 3249772)
Working 14T-007 tabletop model that works on all original components. Probably replace the cans and the waxies and pray I don't break it!

They weren't screaming performers, but they were fairly reliable.
Yours, being the lowest priced model, brown cabinet, no handle and a non-aluminized CRT. They made three years of them. One model even had a clock mounted on top to be used as a clock TV. :banana:

Chris K 03-27-2023 10:04 AM

I saw the clock in the schematic and yes, I believe I have seen them on eBay. It’s in good condition and a great size for my collection. Not much in the way of historical value I agree but it’s cute and that counts for me!

Tim 03-27-2023 11:36 AM

We had the Hotpoint badged one when I was a kid. Light gray and dark gray, with a chrome handle. I don't recall it ever needing service before it was retired.

Electronic M 03-27-2023 12:42 PM

One of these (the latter version with SS H AFC diodes and a lot for H hold) was what got me started collecting. The later ones work better than the early ones, but they definitely aren't Zenith's.

zenith2134 03-27-2023 01:04 PM

I have a Hotpoint version of this too. Curb find years ago. I may dig it out and see what it needs...

dieseljeep 03-27-2023 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3249781)
One of these (the latter version with SS H AFC diodes and a lot for H hold) was what got me started collecting. The later ones work better than the early ones, but they definitely aren't Zenith's.

The little run had a change in the horiz phasing circuit. The early ones had a 5AN8 for an audio amplifier, penthod half and the triode half as the phase detector tube. The newer design has a 3AU6 as the audio amp and a set of diodes for the phase detectors. I don't remember the kind of diodes that was used. :sigh:

Pio1980 03-28-2023 08:47 AM

Grandfather had onesuch he'd carry to the gravel pit he supervised after a massive heart attack ended his life as a farmer/rancher. I was fascinated with it's relative compactness.
They must made and sold a jillion of the Handy little things.

Yamamaya42 03-28-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 3249792)
Grandfather had onesuch he'd carry to the gravel pit he supervised after a massive heart attack ended his life as a farmer/rancher. I was fascinated with it's relative compactness.
"They must made and sold a jillion of the Handy little things."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3S8bgLovik

:D

dieseljeep 03-28-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 3249792)
Grandfather had onesuch he'd carry to the gravel pit he supervised after a massive heart attack ended his life as a farmer/rancher. I was fascinated with it's relative compactness.
They must made and sold a jillion of the Handy little things.

The original ones were the "M" models.
The last run, 1957, were the "Q" models. They still didn't hang on as long as the "Porta-Colors". :D

Electronic M 03-28-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3249801)
The original ones were the "M" models.
The last run, 1957, were the "Q" models. They still didn't hang on as long as the "Porta-Colors". :D

The Portacolors, 14N22 Zeniths, RCA 630 and clones, and CTC-15/16 and clones are in a league of their own in terms of production longevity...Seemed those designs all got around a decade of production.

Chris K 03-28-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3249802)
The Portacolors, 14N22 Zeniths, RCA 630 and clones, and CTC-15/16 and clones are in a league of their own in terms of production longevity...Seemed those designs all got around a decade of production.

I've seen dozens of those RCA CTC-15/16 sets up for sale on eBay advertised as working with pictures to prove it. I picked up 2 myself recently with all original parts, good CRTs and working right out of the shrink wrap.

Yamamaya42 03-28-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris K (Post 3249804)
I've seen dozens of those RCA CTC-15/16 sets up for sale on eBay advertised as working with pictures to prove it. I picked up 2 myself recently with all original parts, good CRTs and working right out of the shrink wrap.

In what alternative / mirror Star Trek or Star Wars universe was this in?:D :scratch2:
In the last 6 years or so of keeping an eye on evil-bay I have only ever seen ONE roundy ever, and where the price was nominal, the shipping was WAY beyond exorbitant. :(
Me thinks you are being a tad bit facetious here! :P :yes:

DavGoodlin 03-28-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim (Post 3249779)
We had the Hotpoint badged one when I was a kid. Light gray and dark gray, with a chrome handle. I don't recall it ever needing service before it was retired.

I have that same Hotpoint 14T007? found at a rummage sale in 1978.
I gave it the half-a**ed recap I did back then and it was working.
I haven't lit it up for a long time, so it needs a full going over.

dieseljeep 03-28-2023 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DavGoodlin (Post 3249808)
I have that same Hotpoint 14T007? found at a rummage sale in 1978.
I gave it the half-a**ed recap I did back then and it was working.
I haven't lit it up for a long time, so it needs a full going over.

I bought a few GE factory issued service manuals that cover models to 1947.
The volume three is for models built from 1955 to 1957. It even includes the color sets, 15CL100 and the 21C701. The paper in this manual turned into a nasty yellow, where the rest of the manuals remained nice and white.
The Hotpoint is probably the last of the run and possibly the "Q" chassis, which is the last of the run.

Chris K 03-28-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3249805)
In what alternative / mirror Star Trek or Star Wars universe was this in?:D :scratch2:
In the last 6 years or so of keeping an eye on evil-bay I have only ever seen ONE roundy ever, and where the price was nominal, the shipping was WAY beyond exorbitant. :(
Me thinks you are being a tad bit facetious here! :P :yes:

Soooooo sorry…thinking about a different RCA. This one…17-PT-9059

Yamamaya42 03-28-2023 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris K (Post 3249813)
Soooooo sorry…thinking about a different RCA. This one…17-PT-9059

musta got your wires crossed or something :P

cause a RCA CTC-15/16 is HUGE! like.

https://i.imgur.com/HGb3e1Y.jpg

and costs a HELL of a lot to ship! :tears:

Not worth it! :scratch2:

nasadowsk 03-29-2023 01:26 PM

I seem to recall when I was living in East Hartford, there were still one or two other folks with roundies in the area (saw them being moved in/out).

And they weren’t collectors.

Those CTC-16s never died

Chris K 03-29-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DavGoodlin (Post 3249808)
I have that same Hotpoint 14T007? found at a rummage sale in 1978.
I gave it the half-a**ed recap I did back then and it was working.
I haven't lit it up for a long time, so it needs a full going over.

Go for it! Glad this rekindled your interest!

Yamamaya42 03-29-2023 01:50 PM

So far, I have only been able to get my hands on 2 color roundies here in TX, MORE! MORE, I WANT MORE! :)
Yet he who shall not be named of the state of California, seems to have enough to fill up a chess board with them! :O
Not fair! :/

Electronic M 03-29-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3249821)
So far, I have only been able to get my hands on 2 color roundies here in TX, MORE! MORE, I WANT MORE! :)
Yet he who shall not be named of the state of California, seems to have enough to fill up a chess board with them! :O
Not fair! :/

I didn't know I'm competing with Voldemort.... I've got some work to do as I only hav about 21 Roundys (I'd probably have him beat if I didn't occasionally sell my least favorite examples). If a pony express trade deal I have going this weekend and later goes through I'll be able to claim having owned and serviced every RCA and Zenith chassis except for the CTC-11, 12, and the K- year Zenith.

Those 16s are tenacious (as long as the flyback isn't toast) most I've seen with a good fly at least partially function....Even one that the cabinet had rusted through on the bottom.

mr_rye89 03-30-2023 03:00 PM

I've contemplated subscribing to Voldemort's YT channel. Thoroughly entertaining.

I wouldn't kick a CTC-16 outta bed. Not sure where I'd put it though:scratch2:
Just dope that fly in Permatex Grey. I've done the one on my 21 twice.


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