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radiotron 03-22-2013 03:21 PM

arvin chaissis cleanup gone wrong!
 
I have been cleaning up my 1950 arvins chaissis up the past 2 days, and had a good full picture almost all the way restored, i put the 5u4 back in, broke the socket! problem solved, turned the set on bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbzzzzzzz
pop bell top 5u4 dead! one of the very few caps that tested good left in :tears: this is why we do FULL restorations!
also it almost cought on fire! i did get free confetti!

ggregg 03-22-2013 03:31 PM

free confetti from a blown filter cap I'm assuming........

Geist 03-22-2013 04:10 PM

Hi All;
Too bad you didn't get it on Video, It would have been a sight to see..
THANK YOU Marty

Einar72 03-22-2013 10:32 PM

Good thing it didn't blow into an eye! Been there, done that!

DavGoodlin 03-22-2013 10:42 PM

Electrolytic caps can suddenly go crappy on you. I just had it happen to a '64 Zenith AM-FM H845, I tested the 4-section electrolytic OK, but it just started humming a bit more each day and I knew.....I was not done even though I replaced the wax-papers and put a silicon rectifier/series resistor in place of the selenium. should have been first on the list.

I bet the new 5U4 was putting out a bit more EMF..was there a phfffft sound first?

radiotron 03-23-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DavGoodlin (Post 3065171)
Electrolytic caps can suddenly go crappy on you. I just had it happen to a '64 Zenith AM-FM H845, I tested the 4-section electrolytic OK, but it just started humming a bit more each day and I knew.....I was not done even though I replaced the wax-papers and put a silicon rectifier/series resistor in place of the selenium. should have been first on the list.

I bet the new 5U4 was putting out a bit more EMF..was there a phfffft sound first?

no, but i have heard that sound, this one i was watching, and it made a pop, then a loud hum i go to turn it off, and sparks confetti,(heck of a mess to clean up) and its being taken to grandpas this weekend

snelson903 03-23-2013 10:28 AM

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i just got done this week recaping my 1955 zenith , i think its the first time iv seen a set that every cap none polerized and electrolytics where all bad ,not one cap was even close to being good most just leaky. it turned out great nice sharp picture ,sound nice and clear ,after going through the tuner its like a new set now.

radiotron 03-23-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by snelson903 (Post 3065185)
i just got done this week recaping my 1955 zenith , i think its the first time iv seen a set that every cap none polerized and electrolytics where all bad ,not one cap was even close to being good most just leaky. it turned out great nice sharp picture ,sound nice and clear ,after going through the tuner its like a new set now.

i found the culprit, it was a resistor went bad, and it took out the cap,
heres pictures before it blew (it was just restored, i didnt get to align it yet)
It has a kind of weak picture tube

bandersen 03-23-2013 04:22 PM

I think it's more likely the cap went bad and took out the resistor.

kvflyer 03-23-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3065213)
I think it's more likely the cap went bad and took out the resistor.



I'm with Bob on that...

trojanrabbit 03-24-2013 11:17 AM

Saw a real good confetti storm once in a previous job. They were working on MRI gradient amplifiers (essentially a big honkin audio amp 300V @ 100A) and had a good sized capacitor bank (probably a dozen large caps) sitting on the bench with an insulator and a DVM sitting on top of it. The power source was a 600V/100A supply adjusted to 350V. One day we heard a hissing sound and someone yelled "DUCK". Apparently the power supply lost regulation and put out full voltage whatever that was. Big confetti storm and the DVM (an HP bench job) was thrown through the ceiling.

miniman82 03-24-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by radiotron (Post 3065123)
put the 5u4 back in, broke the socket! problem solved, turned the set on bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbzzzzzzz


Ya know, it's a good thing you work on B&W sets. I shudder to think how many rare color chassis you might have destroyed if you were a color fan, please learn as much as you can on these sets first.

radiotron 03-24-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3065286)
Ya know, it's a good thing you work on B&W sets. I shudder to think how many rare color chassis you might have destroyed if you were a color fan, please learn as much as you can on these sets first.

i already know about these sets, and i do have colors too.
when i restored it, this cap tested good, it just failed.
its not anybody fault.

bandersen 03-24-2013 12:10 PM

How did you test it ?

radiotron 03-24-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bandersen (Post 3065291)
How did you test it ?

I used a scope


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