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willy3486 04-21-2013 06:45 PM

Just picked up my first old TV to restore
 
I just picked up my first old TV to restore. I worked on TVs some years ago but just recently I wanted to get a older one. It is a Philco 49-1002. I usually deal with tube radios but I got the urge for a TV. I have a few ones but nothing as old as this. I don't have any plans soon for it as it will probably have to wait at least until winter. As far as parts how hard are they to find for this one? It doesn't have the back but I think I can fabricate one. I looked up the sams for it and it is 91 IIRC. My set starts at 92 and I have some older volumes but not all of them. Mine go from 92 to about 15 years back. I looked and found info that it may be in the Riders TV repair manuals but I only have the radio books. I guess that will have to be the first item to find. Does anyone know how hard it is to find a picture tube or the HV coil? Those are two parts I hope to not have to need. Anyway here is the picture of it. Not too bad of shape.

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5fcc9351.jpg

Sandy G 04-21-2013 06:56 PM

Good Luck ! Always loved the looks of those l'il guys !

decojoe67 04-21-2013 07:37 PM

In the 1000 series that model used to always be overlooked, but I personally love it. I also have not seen a whole lot of them through the years. I do not restore chassis, but I do know that those early Philco's have a lot of caps and require a lot of work to restore. I had two early Philco TV's, a 10" 48-1000 and a 7" 49-702. I parted with them both because of tricky audio problems. Those sets are notorious for that. They sure look pretty though! Good luck.

Phil Nelson 04-21-2013 10:38 PM

It might be easier to find a CRT than a flyback transformer, but perhaps both of yours are good. If you don't have a CRT tester, this article explains how you can test the CRT's filament to tell if it's a complete dud:

http://antiqueradio.org/FirstStepsInRestoration.htm

A picture tube can have a good filament yet be too dim to make a brilliant picture; it might make a good enough picture to get you through the restoration, anyhow.

This site has lots of TV manuals, but I don't see your model listed there unless it's covered under another model number:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/tv_sc...s_postwar.html

Tube TVs are similar to tube radios, but more complex and with higher voltage. This section has some TV restoration articles that may give you a general idea what you're getting into:

http://antiqueradio.org/restoration.htm

Regards,

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

timmy 04-22-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy3486 (Post 3067242)
I just picked up my first old TV to restore. I worked on TVs some years ago but just recently I wanted to get a older one. It is a Philco 49-1002. I usually deal with tube radios but I got the urge for a TV. I have a few ones but nothing as old as this. I don't have any plans soon for it as it will probably have to wait at least until winter. As far as parts how hard are they to find for this one? It doesn't have the back but I think I can fabricate one. I looked up the sams for it and it is 91 IIRC. My set starts at 92 and I have some older volumes but not all of them. Mine go from 92 to about 15 years back. I looked and found info that it may be in the Riders TV repair manuals but I only have the radio books. I guess that will have to be the first item to find. Does anyone know how hard it is to find a picture tube or the HV coil? Those are two parts I hope to not have to need. Anyway here is the picture of it. Not too bad of shape.

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5fcc9351.jpg

if the fly is bad you can use any old nos fly from a similar tv b&w, if you have the schematic for your set you can match the ohms of the connections from yours to the new fly. i have a 1947 fada and thought the fly was bad and matched the ohms as close as possible to the schematic with the taps on the fly and it worked fine but i did put the old one back in after realizing the fly was not bad.most nos flys come with a paper that is a pinout of that fly and you can compair those specs with the sams and some flys have multiple taps you can choose from in terms of ohms. good luck with that oldie...

dieseljeep 04-22-2013 08:26 AM

If that's a 7" set, it doesn't use flyback sweep.
Is the set simular to the 50-701.

Phil Nelson 04-22-2013 10:12 AM

That does look more like a 7" set, duh. I take back what I said about a CRT being relatively easy to find. 10" CRTs are more plentiful than 7s. Anyway, maybe he lucked out and this one is fine. I guess we'll find out next winter, if that's really when he's going to work on it.

Phil Nelson

jr_tech 04-22-2013 11:34 AM

I have seen several of these and they are indeed, 10 inch sets. The layout is similar to many 7 inch sets, but the cabinet is larger. Without a scale reference, the picture is deceptive.
jr

Update: found a pix:
http://www.vintagetvsets.com/49-1002.htm

pallophotophone 04-22-2013 11:44 AM

It uses a 10bp4.

Phil Nelson 04-22-2013 11:51 AM

That's one big tabletop!

Phil Nelson

jr_tech 04-22-2013 11:56 AM

Darn thing weighs *almost* as much as an R-390a ! :)
jr

marty59 04-22-2013 03:20 PM

As for size/reference, it looks like it's sitting on top of an old Bell and Howell projector cart and hanging over!

zenithfan1 04-22-2013 03:20 PM

Nice set, I think that might be the first one like it that I've seen. fixed yer typo too....:)

jr_tech 04-22-2013 04:02 PM

I have a couple of early 10 and 12 inch Philcos that likely use a similar chassis... the center to center spacing between the two outer knobs on my sets is about 8-1/2 inches. Using that as a scale, this set must be something like 24-25 inches wide and 13-14 inches high.
jr

Phil Nelson 04-22-2013 04:13 PM

Yes, the knob layout looks just like my 49-1240. Could be much the same chassis, only with a 10" CRT mounted on the side instead of a 12" mounted above.

Phil Nelson


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