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davet753 08-06-2016 06:04 PM

1949 Magnavox MV13BS Restoration
 
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I bought this from the estate of an old friend who was an engineer at Magnavox in the 80's and 90's. It came from the museum that used to be at their engineering and sales office in Knoxville. The chassis is very original, and appears to be unmolested. There is one caveat....the CRT is missing.

I am now in the market for a good 12KP4 picture tube.

timmy 08-06-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by davet753 (Post 3167947)
I bought this from the estate of an old friend who was an engineer at Magnavox in the 80's and 90's. It came from the museum that used to be at their engineering and sales office in Knoxville. The chassis is very original, and appears to be unmolested. There is one caveat....the CRT is missing.

I am now in the market for a good 12KP4 picture tube.

I have a 12lp4 that I think is nos and tests like new but I don't know of a fool proof way of shipping it without getting damaged.

Steve McVoy 08-07-2016 05:50 AM

We have a good used 12KP4A at the museum for sale:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/crts_for_sale_b-w.html

We ship these all the time by Fedex Ground, double boxed, and have never had a broken tube.

Crist Rigott 08-07-2016 07:17 AM

Steve,
I didn't know the EFT had such a listing. I searched the website and couldn't find where to click to bring up this page. Could you let me know how to get there from the Home page?

Thanks.

Steve McVoy 08-07-2016 07:46 AM

The link is in my previous post.

davet753 08-07-2016 05:38 PM

It looks like I'm also going to need to do some work on mounting the CRT (once I find one). The yoke is held in place in a bracket attached to the chassis, and there are two support brackets with rubber bumpers to support the bottom of the screen. I'm missing whatever bracket holds the tube secure.

I'd prefer to use the 12KP4 if at all possible. I understand it is brighter than some of the others of that era, and would be a direct replacement for what the set was made for. Of course, I may have to end up being happy with just finding something that will work.

WISCOJIM 08-07-2016 05:48 PM

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two support brackets with rubber bumpers to support the bottom of the screen. I'm missing whatever bracket holds the tube secure.

Pictures of the mounting assembly and model number, please. I know there's an old round Maggie sitting in one of my storage bins, maybe it has the same setup...

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davet753 08-08-2016 09:01 PM

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Pictures of the mounting assembly and model number, please. I know there's an old round Maggie sitting in one of my storage bins, maybe it has the same setup...

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THanks for the help! Here are some pics of the inside. One shows the cabinet, one the yoke assembly, and one shows the rubber bumpers the front of the picture tube rests on.

Someone had taped a piece of smoky plastic over the inside front, and I haven't cleaned off the tape yet.

THe television is a Magnavox model MV13BS. In 1949, they called the model the "Modern Symphony". It sold for $395.

The

WISCOJIM 08-08-2016 10:18 PM

I'll head out to the storage sometime this week to see if the set I have can help yours.

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davet753 08-09-2016 06:18 PM

Thanks for the help, I sure appreciate it. I have acquired a picture tube, so it looks like this project should be getting underway in the near future.

WISCOJIM 08-16-2016 11:39 AM

I brought the Magnavox back to the garage this morning. Sorry, the mounting of the CRT doesn't match, so I can't help you with that.

Maybe next time?

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davet753 08-17-2016 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WISCOJIM (Post 3168464)
I brought the Magnavox back to the garage this morning. Sorry, the mounting of the CRT doesn't match, so I can't help you with that.

Maybe next time?

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Thanks for looking. I think I can fabricate something to hold it in place.

The diagram arrived in the mail today, and it shows an ion trap on the neck of the tube (the Photofact shows a 10BP4, but the sticker in my cabinet shows a 12KP4). At first, I thought that would be something else I would need, but seems like I remember reading somewhere the 12KP4 didn't require an ion trap.

Eric H 08-17-2016 07:46 PM

KP4's do not need a trap, provided it was never rebuilt with a bent gun, that would be a rare scenario. The schematic no doubt covers several models including a 10".

ohohyodafarted 08-19-2016 11:56 AM

I have the exact same model in my collection. It has a 12KP4, and you are correct, the tube chart calls for a 12K.

My set has not been restored yet. I hope to get to it some day. I got my set from someone in the Chicago area on Craigslist for $40.

Scroll down the page to find the thumbnail
http://antiquetvguy.com/WebPages/The...WhiteSets.html

davet753 08-30-2016 08:17 PM

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Replaced all the wax dipped capacitors, and slowly brought up the line voltage to 100 volts...lo and behold, I have a raster.

Now that I know I have something good to work with, it's time to dig in and get this set working again.


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