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charliesheen 04-22-2006 11:20 PM

westinghouse
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/15GP22-Westingho...QQcmdZViewItem

crooner 04-23-2006 01:14 AM

oh man I wish that set was closer to me!

Shipping to CA is probably insane.

I hope an AK'er gets her!

RetroHacker 04-23-2006 06:35 AM

Wow - now _that_ is going to get expensive. But that is a really cool set. I only hope that sometime soon someone figures out how to rebuild those bloody tubes, because without a tube, it'll just be a broken television forever.

-Ian

Telecolor 3007 04-23-2006 01:21 PM

An very old set that is not an "R.C.A."!
That C.R.T. is owfoul big! What angle of deflexion it haves?

Charlie 04-23-2006 02:31 PM

Hell yeah that's gonna get expensive! These Westinghouse sets are quite rare... even more so than a CT100. Still has the paper/wax capacitors under the chassis! I wonder how many years have passed since this baby's been in use?!

It's a shame about the CRT going to air. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to find a good 15" tube. I'd expect to win the lottery first!

Steve McVoy 04-23-2006 04:10 PM

You can ship the set to CA for under $400. Yes, these sets are rare. We have 15 in our database compared to 113 CT-100s:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/color_database.html

Here is the restored one at the museum:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/westinghouse_color.html

yagosaga 04-23-2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telecolor 3007
That C.R.T. is owfoul big! What angle of deflexion it haves?

45 degrees.

radio63 04-23-2006 05:32 PM

I'm wondering if it would be a complete impossibility to locate an original back cover for this set? The seller says it's missing.

Telecolor 3007 04-23-2006 05:32 PM

Wow, at my "Temp" 2 I have 60 degrees; why the deflexion angle was so small?

Steve McVoy 04-23-2006 05:46 PM

It was difficult to get convergence right with the early color tubes. Notice that the 15GP22 is a round tube (by 1954 all black and white tubes were rectangular) for the same reason. The next generation of color tubes (21AXP22) were about 70 degrees. Color tubes were round until the mid 60s.

Telecolor 3007 04-23-2006 05:51 PM

Aha. My 1957 B & W "Temp" 2 it's a roundie!

John Folsom 04-23-2006 09:32 PM

The Westinghouse 15" color set is one of my favorites. Along with RCA, Westinghouse was one of the eraly developers of color TV. As early as 1952, Westinghouse was demonstrating a color set using R-Y/B-Y demodulstion, which most other manufactuers used within a few years. The model H840CK15 alos featured a ture phase locked loop color reference oscillator, using no 3.58 MHZ color crystal. One of the front panel controls is labeled "color hold". Interesting too that the tint (or color phase) contorl was a back panel control, not intended for routine customer adjustment. This implies that the circuit was much more stable than the program material turned out to be! It also has one of th most stable high voltage supplies of any of the 15" color sets fielded in 1954. Shame about the CRT.

kx250rider 04-24-2006 12:04 AM

I hope it was better than the 1957 22" rectangular Westinghouse... I got one working (if you call it that) about 10 years ago. It actually had an OK picture, but the regulation was awful and it was very unstable in the front end. And just for the record, it too was & is missing the back. Says something subliminal about the reliability here; the back is never on the sets!

I bet this 15" one will see $2000+ on eBay...

Charles

andy 04-24-2006 01:45 AM

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Steve McVoy 04-24-2006 05:57 AM

There is a photo of a magazine ad at the bottom of this page:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/21_inch_color.html

I'd like a photo of a real set to post.

There is one surviving set (and maybe a second).


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