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finally got the vectorscope on this, and again while it can produce ok face tones the green just was not there. the vectorscope showed what looked like the petals laying down sideways, I tweaked the transformer in the phasing circuit and after about 3/4 turn the flower stood upright and bingo nice greens.
I hint that something is not right is when you get decent flesh tones, yet the tint control does not do much in the way of adjusting.
don't settle for brownish greens, and don't go nuts trying to improve greens with drive and background controls. I will get the Wiz of Oz on it later for a nice screen shot.
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