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Old 09-26-2006, 04:09 PM
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JFK Inauguration 20th Jan 1961

Hi all. I've read up that the Inauguration of President John F Kennedy 20th Jan 1961 was televised in colour and here's a clip of his Inaugural address http://www.c-span.org/classroom/govt/inaug_kennedy.asp . I was wondering does the colourcast of this exist on colour videotape? And is this clip a video recorded clip via a TK-41 or is it a film clip from a film camera?

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I believe that this event was filmed. I've seen it complete before.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:40 PM
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Depends on how many times the tape the station has was copied. Color is lost with each copy. The address was filmed in color. I've seen it many times on the History Channel. Here in the states, CBS was last to go to color programing, 1965, IIRC, so it depends on the source.

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Seems like the inaugaration was filmed in color, don't know if they had color videotape machines in '61...at least not ones that were "portable".Most of the coverage of the assasination looks to have been either videotaped or "kinescoped"...Come to think of it, the videotapes are pretty primitive & lousy looking...I remember the eternal flame completely wreaking havoc w/the picture...washing it out, & overloading...as did the glasses frames of one of the Dallas cops...He had chrome-frame glasses,VERY shiny, the light would catch 'em just right, & wreck the TV picture...The TV pictures from then look like they coulda been made in the '30s or '40s,they're so primitive, not the '60s..
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:10 PM
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Most live news feeds were still B/W at that date. I'm sure the event was filmed as well as live. If it was broadcast live in color it would have been by NBC and I'm sure there is a good chance NBC would have saved it on video tape. That being said if a tape from that date was found it would be very hard to good good playback but it is possible as there are still operating quad recorders around.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:22 AM
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I remember it well...

I believe at JFK's inaugural address, the principle camera on the president was a b&w pool feed to all three networks. Certainly, NBC could have sent a color mobile unit to D.C. but why go to the expense? In 1961 the % of homes with color sets was still tiny. And there was not nearly enough color equipment to cover all the festivities. This is why the pool coverage was used. To spread the cost and maximize the available network equipment which was still mainly RCA TK-10 era b&w camera equip. Had NBC chose to use color for portions of the event, it would have been a simple matter to microwave the color signal, as they did with the b&w to WRC-TV, the NBC D.C. station and feed it live to the Network or record it to available color video tape machines as easily as they actually recorded it to b&w vtr's. As for the asassination coverage in Nov. 1963. That was also in b&w. Exception were live cutins from the NBC affiliate in Dallas, WBAP-TV which had live color capability at the time. There was also a memorial concert from Chicago, on NBC, that was telecast in color. I believe the first color telecast of a major event from the White House was the marriage ceremony of Pres. Johnson's daughter in 1964 on NBC.

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The inauguaration was filmed. Sorry for rotton spelling.

The funeral was all shot with video. Believe me, I saw all of it originally. I saw a load of low-band black and white videotape 20 years or so ago of several hours of the procession. Camera blinding was normal at the time.
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The inauguaration was filmed. Sorry for rotton spelling.

The funeral was all shot with video. Believe me, I saw all of it originally. I saw a load of low-band black and white videotape 20 years or so ago of several hours of the procession. Camera blinding was normal at the time.
Absolutely, the 1961 inauguration was also filmed in color and b&w as well as being telecast live to the nation. The funeral.in 1963, was also recorded on motion picture film as well as being telecast live to the nation and via satellite to the world.

(QUOTE) moments after the assassination was film. In their hurry to brodcast it, the film wasn't set out to dry. The result is the lines seen on the film.
You can tell the difference between film and tape. Tape has a live look to it while film looks rather flat.
In 1963, the 3 networks were B&W except for primetime shows. Walter Cronkite said something in an interview that stands out in my mind. When CBS broke in on the first report of the shooting, they used a voice over because the camera needed to warm up! This was late in 1963!!
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My recollection of this event is that CBS was covering the funeral and was late cutting to Dallas and the Oswald shooting. NBC & ABC had the shooting live. I also, was watching it at the time and will never forget that moment.

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Absolutely, the 1961 inauguration was also filmed in color and b&w as well as being telecast live to the nation. The funeral.in 1963, was also recorded on motion picture film as well as being telecast live to the nation and via satellite to the world.

(QUOTE) moments after the assassination was film. In their hurry to brodcast it, the film wasn't set out to dry. The result is the lines seen on the film.
You can tell the difference between film and tape. Tape has a live look to it while film looks rather flat.
In 1963, the 3 networks were B&W except for primetime shows. Walter Cronkite said something in an interview that stands out in my mind. When CBS broke in on the first report of the shooting, they used a voice over because the camera needed to warm up! This was late in 1963!!
Ron(QUOTE)

My recollection of this event is that CBS was covering the funeral and was late cutting to Dallas and the Oswald shooting. NBC & ABC had the shooting live. I also, was watching it at the time and will never forget that moment.

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I was referring to the first reports of the shooting on Friday 11/22. The network(s) didn't have time to setup. They needed to go on air ASAP.
The other events were planned and the networks had time on their sides. CBS, for some reason, felt it necessary to cut away from Oswalds movements to show some tape on JFK. Turned out to be a very 'historic' mistake.

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I was referring to the first reports of the shooting on Friday 11/22. The network(s) didn't have time to setup. They needed to go on air ASAP.
The other events were planned and the networks had time on their sides. CBS, for some reason, felt it necessary to cut away from Oswalds movements to show some tape on JFK. Turned out to be a very 'historic' mistake.

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Ron,

Sorry for the misunderstanding. You are absolutely right. CBS interrupted a soap opera and Cronkite did a voice over a "BULLETIN" slide for the first cut in. Over at NBC they went on the air live but neglected to start rolling tape of this historic broadcast for over 10 min. I have a tape copy of NBC's coverage that day, less those 10 mins., with Chet Huntley & Frank McGee as primary anchors.

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Old 09-30-2006, 01:18 AM
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JFK inaugural color film info

Some information on color filming of the JFK inaugural speech. Text courtesy this site:
Our Stewardship of JFK's Greatest Speeches, Mark Sobel
Address:http://www.jfklancer.com/sobel/speeches.html

"The Inaugural Address
There appears to have been two sources of color film of the Inaugural Address; a 35mm color negative taken by the Department of Defense, and a 16mm color film presumably taken by the White House Press Corps that now exists in the JFK Library, readily available to the public on video for a nominal fee. Short clips from B&W duplicates of the Department of Defense 35mm color negative can be found in theatrical newsreels of the day. I studied the newsreels dealing with the Warren Commission for set design in "The Commission".
Within the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), only the first minutes of the Inaugural Address, as well as the final minutes, survive in 35mm color. Although the camera position was inferior to that of the 16mm cameras, the 35mm negative would have allowed for enlarging the image to generate close shots of JFK, something that none of the color films possess. The B&W video of JFK's Inaugural Address does have many good close-ups, and I can think of no better use for the process of colorization than to sample the actual colors from existing color photos, and colorize this video material for the historical record."

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The footage moments after the assassination was film. In their hurry to brodcast it, the film wasn't set out to dry. The result is the lines seen on the film.
You can tell the difference between film and tape. Tape has a live look to it while film looks rather flat.
In 1963, the 3 networks were B&W except for primetime shows. Walter Cronkite said something in an interview that stands out in my mind. When CBS broke in on the first report of the shooting, they used a voice over because the camera needed to warm up! This was late in 1963!!

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Those old B&W cameras also distorted the images-I remember they had pics at Andrews AFB or Dulles bringing Kennedy's body home to Washington, & the Pontiac ambulance/hearse looked VERY distorted-way too wide & long. Sorta ironic, nowadays every man Jack & his brother has a camcorder that does a better job-or at least as good-as what the networks had in '63...
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Those old B&W cameras also distorted the images-I remember they had pics at Andrews AFB or Dulles bringing Kennedy's body home to Washington, & the Pontiac ambulance/hearse looked VERY distorted-way too wide & long. Sorta ironic, nowadays every man Jack & his brother has a camcorder that does a better job-or at least as good-as what the networks had in '63...
They also had to change lens. On the Oswald shooting, you can see the lens change a fraction of a second before he's shot. The picture is distorted while the lens changes. If you look at the TV station cameras of that time, the lens would rotate for closeup or long shots.

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The JFK Inauguration was Telecast in Color

Portions of the JFK Inauguration were Telecast in Color. I recall playing hookey from Westside high school in Omaha to stay home to watch it on the 21-inch Hallicrafters color television in our home. I do not know if a color video tape survives of this event.

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