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Old 07-28-2013, 08:48 PM
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Good 10BP4's now fetching record prices

I was watching this auction to see where it would go. Incredible!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA10BP4B-pi...:B:WNA:US:3160
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:23 PM
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Well you can't get them rebuilt anymore so what are you gonna do.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:44 AM
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My thoughts, exactly. We all know that's too much (by yesterday's market, anyhow). But if you really really want a particular tube right now, and so does one other guy, that's a bidding war.

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Old 07-29-2013, 01:08 AM
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I think its a one time deal. Someone needed it real bad and had the money.
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:05 AM
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Takes two (or more) to tango. The bid history shows four different people thought it was worth $200+.

It may be unwise to draw sweeping conclusions from a single auction, but it seems unavoidable that CRT prices will rise somewhat when rebuilding is unavailable.

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Old 07-29-2013, 03:58 AM
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Well the guy just paid for it so I will be shipping it out today. I hope it was just someone who got caught up in a bidding war, as I would hate to think thats what a 10bp4 is going for now a days. The last 7bp4 that sold on ebay only went for about $150 and if I'm right the last 10bp4 sold on ebay went for about $100. Also you see lots of 10" sets on ebay for under $100.

I think the guy has a real nice 10" tv that he wants to work and the last thing he needed is a good picture tube. Or he got a set that belonged to grandma and Grampa that he watched as a kid and wants to get it working.

Let us hope, because I too think this is nuts.

One last thing, When people see stuff like this "Good 10BP4's now fetching record prices" It surely will drive up the price.

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Old 07-29-2013, 05:32 AM
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Could be 5 years from now that price will look cheap.
I've got one spare 10BP4 that I am saving for a future
set but have no intentions of selling it even for $250.

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Old 07-29-2013, 07:34 AM
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I have a couple of spares myself that I'm holding on to myself. My wife and I were talking last night about how crazy the price was on this auction. If people continue to collect TVs then prices like these are just the beginning.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:02 AM
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I wonder if you can take a bad tube and fit in a tiny DLP projector fed with UV light?
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:46 AM
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I wonder if you can take a bad tube and fit in a tiny DLP projector fed with UV light?
I've often wondered if some future method of reclaiming defective CRTs would become the norm after all of the easily obtained and dwindling reserves of good ones get sold off . David here has mentioned one possible method of getting a picture back on a screen and gave rise to my thoughts of wondering if it would ever be practical to externally heat a cathode with something like the type of system that flashed the getter and thus circumvent a bad heater . Yea , lots of em get gassy or just outright loose their cathode emission without burning out their heaters , but a fair amount of otherwise good tubes have been declared dead over the years due to bad heaters . Tubes that could see new life if their cathodes could be heated . Crazy idea , i know , but sometimes solutions can come from idle thinking . I would be most concerned with seeing sky high CRT prices as making the CRT akin to ivory / two pounds of tusk being worth more than 2K pounds of elephant . I guess price increases are bound to happen , rarity + demand = $$$ , so I guess it really would be best to sit on any that one may posses if they're appreciating faster than gold .
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:52 AM
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I have a couple of spares myself that I'm holding on to myself. My wife and I were talking last night about how crazy the price was on this auction. If people continue to collect TVs then prices like these are just the beginning.
or the end as collectors die off, will there be more in the pipe line (collectors) to continue the interest? I mean really how many world wide are there that are actively seeking out parts? I wonder what the ratio of old timers to newbs is, and if that continues the newbs will become smaller and smaller. I suppose there could be a resurgence of interest (hard to predict what will tickle the fancy of people in the future), but that presupposes that their will be people that can actually fix sets vs just collect non working hulks, which in that case there will be no need for "good" crt's just relics to have as conversation pieces.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:08 PM
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or the end as collectors die off, will there be more in the pipe line (collectors) to continue the interest? I mean really how many world wide are there that are actively seeking out parts? I wonder what the ratio of old timers to newbs is, and if that continues the newbs will become smaller and smaller. I suppose there could be a resurgence of interest (hard to predict what will tickle the fancy of people in the future), but that presupposes that their will be people that can actually fix sets vs just collect non working hulks, which in that case there will be no need for "good" crt's just relics to have as conversation pieces.
That is how the conversation steered. I commented that IF people continue to collect these in the future that prices can only go up. I emphasized the if and she commented that there were a fair, not a lot but a fair amount of younger people at the ETF convention this year.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:47 PM
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I am brand new to the hobby and on the young side (40). I am really only interested in getting the sets I collect to work. Not really sure what attracted me to this, other than my love of antiques and memories of my grandfather pulling a tabletop set out in his backyard with an extension cord and antenna to watch a ballgame in the summer time.

Plus there is a great satisfaction in learning this stuff, doing the work and actually getting results. I started with a few radios and have had immense help from folks on this forum. Have not completely restored a TV by myself yet, but I am getting there.

Hope the prices do not go up TOO high for working parts, but understand if they do.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:40 AM
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I bet there's still a place to get those rebuilt... With thousands and thousands of little Mom 'n' Pop tube rebuilders still around as late as the 80s, that equipment is at least partly still out there someplace. I'd be shocked if nobody is still doing it... Last time I had a 10BP4 rebuilt about 10 years ago, it was $39 from VDC.

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Old 07-29-2013, 10:55 AM
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I bet there's still a place to get those rebuilt... With thousands and thousands of little Mom 'n' Pop tube rebuilders still around as late as the 80s, that equipment is at least partly still out there someplace. I'd be shocked if nobody is still doing it... Last time I had a 10BP4 rebuilt about 10 years ago, it was $39 from VDC.

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There doesn't seem to be anyone still doing it in the US, but I did find this place in Canada:

http://www.wmicronics.com/pictubesol.htm

EDIT: Ah, nevermind, I just found some old topics here saying that place is some kind of scam. And in South Carolina rather than Canada.

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