A Philco I couldn't resist - Videokarma.org TV - Video

jeyurkon · #1 02-04-2009, 10:59 PM

I probably shouldn't have, but since it was only about 23 miles away I couldn't resist. The cabinet is in really good shape and the chassis is fairly clean.

The listing said a piece of laminate had come off. There was an old envelope taped to the front of the set. It was sealed and dated 1980. I pulled it off and found that the laminate was inside. It appears that it was placed in the envelope about 29 years ago.

That will make repair very simple. The only problem is that there is scotch tape stuck to the finished surface of the veneer. I need to find a way to remove it without disturbing the finish.

The set is a Philco 50T-1432.

John

wa2ise · #2 02-05-2009, 12:03 AM

It's a good thing you got it. Someone might have been tempted to install a LCD or plasma HDTV display in it. As the picture tube is surrounded by a wooden "frame" that looks a lot like a 16 by 9 rectangle, the shape of HDTV displays...

***Eric H*** · #3 02-05-2009, 12:20 AM

Nice set, and unusual too.
The knobs look like they're slanted upward, is the chassis mounted at an angle to achieve that?

refill233 · #4 02-05-2009, 05:02 AM

The best thing i use to remove tape,gum,tar,and anything else that may be stuck to the finish of the set is GOO GONE. You can get it at Walmart or at least local here i can. It works very fast and it doesn't hurt the finish at all. If you can't find it let me know and i'll ship you a bottle. Yellow color in the bottle makes it hard to miss on the shelf. Thats a very nice set. GOOD SAVE.

Don

*Bill Cahill* · #5 02-05-2009, 06:06 AM

Very nice set, and, a definate keeper. Great find!!!!
Bill Cahill

Ampico-kid · #6 02-05-2009, 08:14 AM

Very nice set John. Your Sylvania will have some very good company. Great save!
Bob.

jeyurkon · #7 02-05-2009, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric H

Nice set, and unusual too.
The knobs look like they're slanted upward, is the chassis mounted at an angle to achieve that?

The chassis is mounted at an angle, although I'm not sure of the reasoning for it. Besides the knobs being angled up towards you, the back panel is hinged. Coupled witht he tilted chassis his gives very easy access to the tubes. Maybe it was for both reasons.

John

jeyurkon · #8 02-05-2009, 08:32 AM

I forgot to mention that the 12LP4 is an RCA brand. I'm guessing it must have been replaced at some time. The aquadag is also peeling. I'll probably have to recoat it, if the CRT is good.

John

Reece · #9 02-05-2009, 01:19 PM

Back "in the day," the TV man was a frequent visitor to early sets. The hinged back door made his job faster. This is a really nice set and in great condition.

Reece

gadget73 · #10 02-05-2009, 07:44 PM

Wow, thats a nice find.

jeyurkon · #11 02-05-2009, 10:20 PM

Tonight I tested the 12LP4 in this set. I used a Sencore Supermack. I coudn't adjust the tracking at all (grid cutoff out of range) and no emission. Same after about 20 minutes. Then I tried raising the filament voltage by 10% to simulate a brightener. It started to barely register. Then there were a couple of jumps and it started to climb. After a few minutes I could just barely adjust the tracking and the emission was reading good. Then I lowered the filament back to 6.3VAC. The tracking was still just barely good and the emission good. The life test was o.k.

I then tried it with the B&K 465. The emission was just barely above the good line at 200ua. The grid cut off was just barely within range. The life was 2 seconds. Not impressive.

So, it might work. It might work better if a rejuvenation was tried. Therein lies my quandary. It might not be long for this world and it sounds like Hawkeye might be closing soon. I'm not going to work on this set right away. Do I try to rejuvenate it and see if it improves a lot? Do I send it to Hawkeye so I have a good known tube? I'm probably not going to be able to test it in a set before Hawkeye closes.

I do have two 12LP4As that I'm about to pick up. One not too bad and the other very questionable. I could send that one in. But it is the grey filtered face version. Having one good one and two o.k. should keep the set going for the foreseeable future.

What would you do?

John

RobtWB · #12 02-05-2009, 11:49 PM

That set is drop dead gorgeous.
The grill work and cloth are exceptionally nice.

I wish my 50T 1630 had that nice of an exterior finish.

Old1625 · #13 02-06-2009, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by refill233

The best thing i use to remove tape,gum,tar,and anything else that may be stuck to the finish of the set is GOO GONE. You can get it at Walmart or at least local here i can. It works very fast and it doesn't hurt the finish at all. If you can't find it let me know and i'll ship you a bottle. Yellow color in the bottle makes it hard to miss on the shelf. Thats a very nice set. GOOD SAVE.

Don

I haven't tried that product--although I've seen it displayed....I'll keep it in mind...

In my experience good ol' mineral spirits will do the same job, and may be even more gentle to the finish on an old set. Might one be exactly the other....

M3-SRT8 · #14 02-07-2009, 03:34 PM

For Scotch Tape? Any Tape? WD-40.

It's not agressive. Goo Gone CAN be too aggressive. I've seen it mar an old lacquer finish.

Try WD-40 First. Goo Gone if not successful.

Let the WD-40 wet the surface for a bit, then remove with a PLASTIC spatula.

LJB

PS: Good catch!

***Eric H*** · #15 02-07-2009, 05:00 PM

Good old Ronsonol Lighter Fluid works great on most sticky things, it's very light Naptha solvent and leaves no residue, I use it to clean price sticker goo off record labels and it doesn't hurt them at all.