ATSC 3.0 - Oh boy

[Username1]

I doubt there will be converter boxes available to go from atsc 3 back to atsc 2, or 1. And I guarantee there will not be one to go back to ntsc. I think the only reason they did it for the ntsc this time around was that there were sets from the 50's theoretically still in use.... I guess tv's will go the way of cell phones, every few years they will come up with something else.... The only good thing I see in that story is the distributed transmission thing... But I would imagine if they can't get people to pay for it, and general tv viewership continues to decline, both adoption, a partially implemented distributed transmission scheme will mean the end of OTA tv of any kind, and it will further splinter into today's broadcast channels, cable channels, and internet providers like netflix and their tv shows. I think this system will take quite a while to sell to broadcasters, I don't think it will fly with the public all that well, and more people will just give up tv.

Thanks for posting the story.

[Chip Chester]

Betcha dollars to donuts that a 3.0 set won't even power up without a persistent internet connection back to the tracking/ad insertion server.

Chip

[Username1]

Originally Posted by Chip Chester

Betcha dollars to donuts that a 3.0 set won't even power up without a persistent internet connection back to the tracking/ad insertion server.

Chip

Or it won't do anything if you don't have a active contract on it.... like a cell phone.

[jr_tech]

Originally Posted by Username1

I doubt there will be converter boxes available to go from atsc 3 back to atsc 2, or 1. And I guarantee there will not be one to go back to ntsc.

Why? I suspect that the early ATSC 3 sets will be quite expensive and in short supply. Therefore, there *will* be a demand for converter boxes... If a consumer demand exists, there will be a product to meet the demand.

jr

[NowhereMan 1966]

Originally Posted by Username1

I doubt there will be converter boxes available to go from atsc 3 back to atsc 2, or 1. And I guarantee there will not be one to go back to ntsc. I think the only reason they did it for the ntsc this time around was that there were sets from the 50's theoretically still in use.... I guess tv's will go the way of cell phones, every few years they will come up with something else.... The only good thing I see in that story is the distributed transmission thing... But I would imagine if they can't get people to pay for it, and general tv viewership continues to decline, both adoption, a partially implemented distributed transmission scheme will mean the end of OTA tv of any kind, and it will further splinter into today's broadcast channels, cable channels, and internet providers like netflix and their tv shows. I think this system will take quite a while to sell to broadcasters, I don't think it will fly with the public all that well, and more people will just give up tv.

Thanks for posting the story.

Well, you can feed the ATSC 3.0 convertor to an ATSC 1.0 set-top box and then to your NTSC TV. I know it's convoluted, but it should work, at least in theory. Sometimes I think we need to slow all this stuff down until we catch up. :p

[andy]

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[YamahaFreak]

Technology as a whole is really starting to depress me. I was so busy lamenting over the loss of CRT TVs in stores that I nearly didn't realize that rear projectors (Even DLP!!!) are now gone from the shelves, too! Cell phones being replaced every year, TVs failing after three years, and now this...I wish it would all just SLOW DOWN.

[NowhereMan 1966]

Originally Posted by YamahaFreak

Technology as a whole is really starting to depress me. I was so busy lamenting over the loss of CRT TVs in stores that I nearly didn't realize that rear projectors (Even DLP!!!) are now gone from the shelves, too! Cell phones being replaced every year, TVs failing after three years, and now this...I wish it would all just SLOW DOWN.

Yeah, me too. There are times I wish we'd put more money into things like cancer research instead of ATSC 3.0, but I'm getting close to that line we should never cross. I guess I'm just blowing off steam, I lost my mother to cancer last week.

Back on topic, I don't care if I see a program in 405 line British or ASTC Hi-Def telelvisiomn, the content and story are the most important to me.

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by NowhereMan 1966

Yeah, me too. There are times I wish we'd put more money into things like cancer research instead of ATSC 3.0, but I'm getting close to that line we should never cross. I guess I'm just blowing off steam, I lost my mother to cancer last week.

Back on topic, I don't care if I see a program in 405 line British or ASTC Hi-Def telelvisiomn, the content and story are the most important to me.

What really gets to me is that the drug companies spend several times what is spent on new drug research for TV ads for "ED medication" (Viagra, Cialis, etc). That and the fact that in Canada the EXACT same meds they sell here go for tiny fractions of the price they sell for here (and they are still making a decent profit in Canada)....The Pharmaceutical companies are basically raping us....

If some politicians who wrote a law(/tax) that is beginning to royally mess up health insurance weren't in the pocket of the pharmaceuticals that law might have actually had ONE good aspect to it...I wonder how lobbing (bribery) expenditures of the pharmaceuticals compares to research spending?....

The FCC is similarly screwed up. Instead of regulating the airwaves to prevent signal conflicts, preventing broadcast standards changes that obsolete equipment currently in use, etc like they did when they were run by engineering minded folks, it is instead all about the money they can get from the cellphone, etc companies by selling bandwidth, and which political buts they can kiss.

[Username1]

Originally Posted by Electronic M

What really gets to me is that the drug companies spend several times what is spent on new drug research for TV ads for "ED medication" (Viagra, Cialis, etc). That and the fact that in Canada the EXACT same meds they sell here go for tiny fractions of the price they sell for here (and they are still making a decent profit in Canada)....The Pharmaceutical companies are basically raping us....

If some politicians who wrote a law(/tax) that is beginning to royally mess up health insurance weren't in the pocket of the pharmaceuticals that law might have actually had ONE good aspect to it...I wonder how lobbing (bribery) expenditures of the pharmaceuticals compares to research spending?....

The FCC is similarly screwed up. Instead of regulating the airwaves to prevent signal conflicts, preventing broadcast standards changes that obsolete equipment currently in use, etc like they did when they were run by engineering minded folks, it is instead all about the money they can get from the cellphone, etc companies by selling bandwidth, and which political buts they can kiss.

You got it......

The US Government is a Bribery Driven Government.

That is basically why almost everything they do no one likes....