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Old 04-13-2014, 12:47 AM
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The CRT is almost certainly a 7JP4, the socket and metal bracket are stock Hallicrafters, relocated from the chassis to the wood spacer.

The socket is slightly different than this one on my set, having an open end and slots around the outside edge so the wires could come out the sides in a different application, if it was edge connectors they would be shorted against the metal bracket.
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Old 04-13-2014, 03:54 PM
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Fascinating. I'm going to try to get this set. The seller originally contacted me with an interest in selling it (he definitely didn't want it restored.) He said he "wasn't sure of a price" but that it would be "less than $300."

Well, I just paid my taxes so I told him I am definitely interested and we could work a deal, but it would be a few weeks. He's trying to pass the buck to his wife by stating "she's not sure if she wants to sell it or not".... Of course they want a fair price for it, and don't want to be taken advantage of which is perfectly understandable, plus he repeated that they really need to make space... so I see the 'wife' statement as more of an implication that they don't want a low ball offer.

We'll see what happens. It's absolutely gorgeous.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:25 PM
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The 8 seperate doors on the cabinet is interesting
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Old 04-13-2014, 06:53 PM
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I'd be hesitant to give anything for it unless i was sure it wasn't some cobbled together frankenset.

You might try posting the cabinet photos over at the Antique Radio Forum and see if anyone can identify it as a radio/phono before making an offer.

The cabinet looks similar to some Capehart models but I couldn't find an exact match.
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Old 04-13-2014, 07:12 PM
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I had those legs pegged as Capehart too, but Farnsworth wouldn't have used such a chincy tuner. They look identical to those on a 413N I used to have with the flip-over changer.

I'm hearing from a few people now that they think it is a Philharmonic.

Just posted on ARF with several more high res pics.

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Old 04-13-2014, 07:26 PM
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Something else I notice is that there are vents in the top of the cabinet on both sides; one for the radio and one for the TV chassis; if this cabinet was repurposed, what were the vents over the TV chassis originally for?
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:10 PM
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I think this was repurposed from something else. You can see in the CRT space that there are four mounting holes for a much larger chassis. The Hallicrafters chassis is also a little big as well. I'm also curious about what that pull out shelf above the CRT is for. Still, in any form, 7" consoles are cool.

Anybody ever hear of this Telfair radio brand? Sounds European, but even the cheapest euro sets always seem to be multi band radios, not just BC AM.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:28 PM
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I'd be hesitant to give anything for it unless i was sure it wasn't some cobbled together frankenset.

You might try posting the cabinet photos over at the Antique Radio Forum and see if anyone can identify it as a radio/phono before making an offer.

The cabinet looks similar to some Capehart models but I couldn't find an exact match.
I must say again that a friend has that same cabinet, granted labeled Philharmonic with a Tele-Tone 7" TV installed, but his is definitely not cobbled together. It seems to me this cabinet may have been used in several different configurations as a low-budget TV combo in it's day.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:45 PM
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Be aware of this: A friend has that exact cabinet with an genuine factory "Philharmonic" TV/radio/phono. installed. It's entirely original and does not appear to be a "franken-set". It uses a 7" Tele-tone chassis.
Interesting! I keep thinking that a phono should go where the CRT is. Where does your friend's matching cabinet place the record player? I can assume that this set once had a phonograph, as why else would it have a record drawer?

One thing that makes me think this is a replacement TV chassis, is the right outside cabinet door is in two pieces. The left outside door in front of the TV chassis looks like it originally had been in two pieces and at some point someone joined them together to create a full door over the TV chassis.

The dual chassis 7 inch Tele-tone chassis would easily fit in the top half of that cabinet, with the Teletone power chassis with the speaker. This would leave room for a matching record storage area left of the speaker grill and that would balance the unit.

The TV chassis is an early Hallicrafters as it still has channel one, ie 14 buttons.

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Interesting! I keep thinking that a phono should go where the CRT is. Where does your friend's matching cabinet place the record player? I can assume that this set once had a phonograph, as why else would it have a record drawer?

One thing that makes me think this is a replacement TV chassis, is the right outside cabinet door is in two pieces. The left outside door in front of the TV chassis looks like it originally had been in two pieces and at some point someone joined them together to create a full door over the TV chassis.

The dual chassis 7 inch Tele-tone chassis would easily fit in the top half of that cabinet, with the Teletone power chassis with the speaker. This would leave room for a matching record storage area left of the speaker grill and that would balance the unit.

The TV chassis is an early Hallicrafters as it still has channel one, ie 14 buttons.

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My friends set has a rather goofy configuration with the phono under the TV. It cuts the speaker grill in half, and you have to look at this rather unattractive phono drawer. I believe the left side areas are all record storage. The Tele-Tone chassis does fit perfect in the center panel, but I actually like the Hallicrafters porthole screen alone in the center with the pushbuttons to the left - and without the phono. Very primitive looking. It really looks pre-war!
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I may not know what it is, but I know I like it! Big cabinet small CRT .
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:24 AM
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My friends set has a rather goofy configuration with the phono under the TV. It cuts the speaker grill in half, and you have to look at this rather unattractive phono drawer. I believe the left side areas are all record storage. The Tele-Tone chassis does fit perfect in the center panel, but I actually like the Hallicrafters porthole screen alone in the center with the pushbuttons to the left - and without the phono. Very primitive looking. It really looks pre-war!
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:37 AM
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Here is a link to a photo of what a Philharmonic radio television looks like on Radiolaguys site. One very similar to this one sold on eBay years ago. I would follow Eric's suggestion to check it out before paying too much.

http://www.radiolaguy.com/images/TVs...nicTVcombo.jpg
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:21 PM
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Wow, that Philharmonic is quite a collectable. The cabinet, for a post war set, really looks dated. Thanks for posting the photo link.

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Old 04-14-2014, 01:40 PM
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Steve, the set you posted I have no problem believing is a factory made unit, everything is in proportion and there are decals for all the controls.

I just can't believe any manufacturer would have used a Hallicrafter chassis mounted sideways, it just looks wrong, plus the lack of decals and angle brackets holding the chassis in place just confirms the point.

If the first set's a home brew then it was done a long time ago.
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