1949 Philips tv

[Electronic M]

If they were already selling radios all they would have had to do is come up with a TV chassis design and tell production to build it...Just like any other established radio maker post-WWII would.

[Tom9589]

I just found the ad for this TV on Kijiji which appears the be a Canadian version of Craig’s list. The set is in Cambridge, Ontario which isn’t too far from Niagra Falls where there was 25Hz power.

The set has a bright horizontal line so the HV works and the CRT isn’t completely dead

[WISCOJIM]

Originally Posted by Tom9589

The set has a bright horizontal line so the HV works and the CRT isn’t completely dead

I hope they haven't left it running like that for long...



https://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronics/...ationFlag=true

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[Tony F]

Regarding the "line on the screen". I looked real close at the picture tube and there is no burn mark. Also, the seller told me he didn't have it on very long to test. Just a basic power up.
I'm beginning to think that Electrohome might have built this set. Either that or Westinghouse. They had a plant in Hamilton.
Tony

[Penthode]

Philips bought Rogers Majestic and the Philips sets were also badged Rogers Majestic.

The first station received in Toronto was WBEN 4 now WIVB which began broadcasting in the fall of 1948. My parents in Toronto bought a Philips 17" set in 1951 prior to CBLT's start in September 1952.

I have the original service information for these sets in storage. Please be patient as I locate it. Otherwise I believe it is listed under Rogers Majestic in RCC 1 notes.

Incidentally I have a Montreal manufactured RCA Victor 8T243 from 1949. I believe it was the first set manufactured in Canada. The Philips set depicted I believe is from 1950.

[Penthode]

Originally Posted by Tom9589

I just found the ad for this TV on Kijiji which appears the be a Canadian version of Craig’s list. The set is in Cambridge, Ontario which isn’t too far from Niagra Falls where there was 25Hz power.

The set has a bright horizontal line so the HV works and the CRT isn’t completely dead

Southern Ontario including Toronto and Cambridge was 25Hz until 1958.

[Electronic M]

They probably based the set on an existing north american design rather than grabbing something from europe and re-engineering it to handle NTSC.

[Tony F]

Looking underneath the chassis shows almost no servicing in the past. The cabinet was designed so the chassis could be slid out the back without removing the knobs. The front bezel is a "split" design to go in behind the knobs once the chassis is installed. I tried to remove the inner knobs with the chassis still in the cabinet. There are actually set screws installed on the inner knobs. So,.. until you remove the bezel, remove the chassis and slide the outer knobs back toward the chassis you would never see the grub screws. I thought, oh great more seized knobs ! Here are some photo's.

[electronjohn]

Looks mighty clean!

[Tom9589]

When you get a schematic, please post it. This is one amazing set.

Looking closely at the photos, it appears that there is a soldered connection on the top of all of the electrolytic cans. Is this the negative connection for the capacitors inside the can?

[Penthode]

I was provided the full service information volume for all early Canadian Philips/ Rogers televisions by Mr Earl Ryder of Ryders TV service in Georgetown Ontario in 1971. I still have it in a box in storage. I will look for it but it will be a few months before I may find it.

In the meantime, the Toronto Reference Library located just north of Bloor Street on Yonge used to keep a copy of it.

[Phil Nelson]

I wouldn't count on any library retaining such docs indefinitely. My regional library used to have a complete set of Riders TV manuals, as well as a subscription to Sams allowing me to download any Sams manual free.

They discontinued the Sams subscription last year because the demand was insufficient to justify the expense.

A couple of months ago I went there to photocopy something from Riders and they told me they had disposed of that whole set, too. To quote the librarian, "You might be the only person who looked at that set in the last decade."

In a library, space costs money.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
https://antiqueradio.org/index.html

[Penthode]

Originally Posted by Phil Nelson

I wouldn't count on any library retaining such docs indefinitely. My regional library used to have a complete set of Riders TV manuals, as well as a subscription to Sams allowing me to download any Sams manual free.

They discontinued the Sams subscription last year because the demand was insufficient to justify the expense.

A couple of months ago I went there to photocopy something from Riders and they told me they had disposed of that whole set, too. To quote the librarian, "You might be the only person who looked at that set in the last decade."

In a library, space costs money.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
https://antiqueradio.org/index.html

You may be right, Phil. I haven't been to the reference library for over a decade and the service data may have been disposed of. I am curious to check.

The problem is the unique Canadian service data and where to find it.

[Tony F]

I was actually quite lucky the other day. I was searching E-Bay and came across an original Rogers-Majestic / Philips service manual #1 for years 1948-1952. The seller said it has the DV1050 in it. Hopefully it should arrive by the end of the week. Also, the price was right.
Tony