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Old 10-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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The first link failed to open but I opened the second link.
Be very patient. That link took several minutes to open for me, but it is there.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:41 PM
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Kyoto/Japan? I guess I have to play "Find Waldo/Halphen" soon.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:20 AM
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Hi Dave,

Not playing "Find Waldo", just on a trip to Japan.

Will be visiting the Sony Museum at Tokyo HQ + the NHK Museum of Broadcasting.

Hope to bring back lots of interesting shots.

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Old 10-09-2013, 06:47 PM
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I downloaded DJVU viewer and opened file. Is there anything worth translating? Do you know if it went into production?
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:21 PM
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Do you know if it went into production?
Hi again.

I searched and asked from my co-members at elfafoorum if they know anything about this TV-set. It seems that this was quite small special edition made for deputates of the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union celebrating 60-th year of Oktober Revolution.

TV set was made using "foreign" parts, as the russians didn't had enough small colour decoder and other blocks on discrete elements to fit into this cabinet (normal size TV-sets had SECAM-decoders with several tubes at that time). Called Aurora (Аврора in cyrillic), but Aurora is also a common B/W set, so web-searching founds them. There are 10 or even less answers on Internet about that chromatron, so sadly nothing more.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:12 PM
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Hi all, first time posting here! Sorry if reviving this thread is frowned upon, it just seemed like keeping all the Indextron VF info in one place made the most sense to me from a reference standpoint.

I'm yet another weirdo looking to use the viewfinder in the RCA CKC021 as a standalone monitor. I've got it all hooked up and such but I can't seem to get the color indexing portion to work correctly. It's all weird color confetti, all the time, and making the adjustments written in the service manual solves nothing, sadly.

I've been measuring voltages listed on the schematic, and I'm wondering if my version of the service manual is either old or incorrect, or if there's something broken on the board.

In the attached image of the schematic of the EVF Process I board (page 8-59 of the service manual), pin 18 of IC1701 should be 4.9V, connected to the right output of the 2.7MHz bandpass filter. However, on my board, pin 18 shares continuity with ground. I'm not sure if the BPF is broken, or if the schematic is incorrect. If anyone else has a CKC021 VF and could verify what voltage is supposed to be on that pin, I'd greatly appreciate it!

Also, wow, that pink Sharp model! I must have it!!
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:58 AM
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I believe that the voltage shown on the schematic for pin 18 is incorrect. I measure close to zero... the only pin in that section (13-19) with much measurable voltage is pin 14, with about 4.8 volts.

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Old 09-20-2016, 04:43 PM
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I believe that the voltage shown on the schematic for pin 18 is incorrect. I measure close to zero... the only pin in that section (13-19) with much measurable voltage is pin 14, with about 4.8 volts.

jr
Another thing I'm noticing is that a lot of the signals shown in the oscilloscope screenshots are reading way low on my scope. Like the signal shape and frequency looks correct but the amplitude is often 10x lower than the service manual states. Like a signal that the manual says should be 0.2v p-p reads 20mV p-p on my scopes.
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Old 09-20-2016, 04:50 PM
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Another thing I'm noticing is that a lot of the signals shown in the oscilloscope screenshots are reading way low on my scope. Like the signal shape and frequency looks correct but the amplitude is often 10x lower than the service manual states. Like a signal that the manual says should be 0.2v p-p reads 20mV p-p on my scopes.
Are you using a 1x or 10X scope probe?
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Old 09-20-2016, 12:52 PM
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Well dang, there goes my primary troubleshooting avenue
Thanks for checking it out on yours
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:13 PM
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1x, is the manual screenshots done with a 10x?
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Old 09-20-2016, 05:17 PM
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10x attenuates signal by a factor of 10...They say 10x so that you remember to multiply your reading by 10 so it is accurate.
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:14 PM
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y'know I checked my probe before I started probing. Just checked it again, sure enough the little switch was on 10x... must have slipped while contorting my hand to hold the probe on some pin at some point. Today has not been going my way so far lol
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:59 PM
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I found this site on Indextron.I'm surprised they did not go with the Panasonic CT-101 CRT tube in the VF.Maybe because there was to much electronics to cram into the VF shell.


http://www.visions4.net/journal/time...e-a/indextron/
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:30 AM
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I found this site on Indextron.I'm surprised they did not go with the Panasonic CT-101 CRT tube in the VF.Maybe because there was to much electronics to cram into the VF shell.


http://www.visions4.net/journal/time...e-a/indextron/
heh that's etype2's site, as seen in other posts in this thread
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