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10-23-2024, 03:42 AM
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I redid the Donovan piece in 1080p and deinterlaced it. MUCH better!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfeX-1lv-7w I tried setting capture to PAL to make a PAL DVD but despite setting 1080p and deinterlacing it still had the same problems as before. Something in my chain isn't processing PAL. But I think these NTSC files look great. 
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10-24-2024, 01:19 AM
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It is unfortunate that you cannot produce 50p with your workflow. See how the woman on the back has four lenses, this is not because of slow shutter speed, but because of field blending. See the fascia of the roof on the back, it has coarse stairstepping and also double images. Also, converting 25i to 30p causes irregular judder. It can look better
 Although if it looks good to you, that is all that matters. I see that you are using Honestech software. I wonder can it produce true interlaced video? There are different versions, the one that I've used could only do 25p or 30p. But at least you should be able to produce 25p for youtube, the motion will look slightly better, the stutter will be more regular. Caution: 25p will likely not play on an old American DVD player if it is not a multi-region one, for it you need either 30i or 30p. Can you share your full workflow? Do you produce 1080p files with Cyberlink? Can you do MediaInfo on the file you obtain with the Honestech? Can you set the VCR to output PAL, set Honestech to PAL, set it to highest quality, and record 10-20 seconds and upload it somewhere, just for kicks? Last edited by DVtyro; 10-24-2024 at 01:33 AM.
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10-24-2024, 01:47 PM
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In my work place we used the Tandberg C-60 for video conferencing system. That have in and out NTSC 480i, and European systems, along with HDMI and DVI to 1080p. S-Video included. Too bad that is outrageously (obscenely) expensive, but the conversion quality of that is far superior to almost anything I see; almost textbook perfect. For each direction and any PC resolution to 1080p or i, and vice versa, excellent for converting 1080p video to 480i with extra professional results. I wish to have one for conversion of old videos etc. And for using new content with old TV's (as an option).
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10-24-2024, 08:12 PM
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The SONY VCR I am using is a PAL only deck that came bundled with various attachments for USA use. The unit has a SCART OUT and a SCART > RCA adapter if that matters.
Connect via RCA cables to Honestech capture device. Open up Honestech software and choose Advance Mode. Set Capture Format to MPEG-2 & TV/Video Standard to NTSC. Recording Resolution 720x480 [highest option]. When ready to output I choose "User Defined Settings" then HD MPEG. Format: MPEG 2, Resolution: 1920X1080 [1280X720 also an option], Aspect Ratio 4:3. Then I click "Advanced" and I choose "deinterlace [source]". Sample rate 44.1 Khz [also options for 48 & 32 Khz], Bitrate 320 [380 also an option]. However I think the Donovan clip was done at 224 bitrate. I tried 320 on the upload after that one here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XsvxMsi24A&t=2295s I have tried doing everything I listed above [224 bitrate] and setting to PAL in Honestech but I got the same problems I described in the OP: color streaks and combing.
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10-25-2024, 01:36 AM
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Why MPEG-2? Although this is the least of your worries.
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10-25-2024, 06:25 AM
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Honestech is the only software I'm using. No deinterlacing options. I thought MPEG-2 was the highest quality. The options to capture are; VCD, SVCD, DVD, DVD DL, Long DVD, Long DVD DL, WMV, MPEG-1 and MPEG-2.
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10-25-2024, 12:35 PM
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I don't think Honestech can deliver proper interlaced video. I have Honestech VHS to DVD 3.0 SE, and could not make it produce interlaced video, all I was getting was 30p. But it does have both NTSC and PAL settings.
Why would not you try other software? Are you on Windows? You can try VirtualDub (or VirtualDub2, it offers more container options and has built-in Cineform codec), or AmarecTV. Do not use OBS. You will need to install codecs to capture into to your liking, MPEG-2 is not included. MPEG-2 is used for DVDs, but who really authors DVDs these days? This is my workflow (Youtube video), I don't suggest you to follow it to the T, but maybe you want to take a cursory look. Ideally, you should capture 25i. Then you would make a 50p deliverable for Youtube, then if you really want you can convert 50p into 30i to burn to a DVD to play on an NTSC player, it will look better than converted from 25p. Last edited by DVtyro; 10-25-2024 at 12:42 PM.
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10-25-2024, 01:14 PM
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So, there are two tasks at hand:
First, make sure you have captured interlaced video. You can load it into VirtualDub, turn on double frame rate deinterlacing as I show in my video linked above, and make sure that your captured video is indeed interlaced. Second, to deliver for youtube you need to deinterlace. To preserve the motion, you need to deinterlace your PAL video to 50p. I started the Honestech software that I have, VHS to DVD 3.0 SE. It has these settings:  As you can see, it does not go higher than 30p. At best you can have either 30i or 30p, but not 50p or 60p. (NTSC is 29.97 frames/s or 59.94 fields/s, also 59.94 frames/s for HD). Interlacing and deinterlacing options are checkboxes, not radiobuttons. I guess, this means that you can deinterlace your source footage, then re-interlace it if needed. In any case, 30 fps is the limit, not good enough. But this is my version, yours may look different. If you can choose 50p, please do. Check "Deinterlace source", uncheck "Interlace Encoding". Last edited by DVtyro; 10-25-2024 at 01:18 PM.
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