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10-17-2003, 12:52 AM
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bgadow,
The Transvision is a great collectible! As for early tubed color TV's, I am constantly amazed at how well the clever engineers were able to make these work with so few tubes. If a tube equals a transistor, then the modern TV's would need hundreds of tubes to work! 
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10-22-2003, 12:02 AM
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Posted by Dave A
I thought Dave A's post discussing his collection in the "Show Us Your B&W TV's" needed presence here.
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10-22-2003, 01:34 AM
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I had a huge collection of old TV sets (all trash-day finds, of course) in the basement of my former home back in the early 1970s; gee, I wish I would have taken a picture or two of it (them) so I could scan it into my computer and show them off now, thirty-odd years later. I had just about every American make of television down there except Magnavox. I'd list them here, but I can't remember them all anymore.
My old neighborhood, near Cleveland, was also Zenith land, maybe not so much as drh4683's hometown, but a lot of my neighbors in my former hometown had Zenith consoles, portables, roundies . . . you name it, in the 50s and 60s. (I picked up one Zenith Space Command "300" portable--without the remote--in the late '70s and used it in my bedroom as my main set; it lasted only about a year before the horizontal-output tube went gassy and overbiased the RF amp in the tuner, not to mention the IF strip and AGC, so badly as to practically wipe out the picture.) I'm not saying we had more Zeniths than Doug's hometown had, but there were a lot of them out by the curb on trash day, every week, as the old sets developed serious problems or defective CRTs and were replaced by newer, and in some cases bigger, color sets. I once picked up a 23-inch Zenith b&w console which someone had filched all but one tube out of; I retubed that set (it still had a very strong 23ANP4 CRT, which produced a beautiful picture) and it worked, for three whole years. I even patched an FM tuner into the audio system to make a cheap-and-dirty mono hi-fi system (that set had a wonderful and great-sounding audio channel, with a 6BN6 quad detector and 6BQ5 output stage, not to mention a 6x9 oval speaker in the cabinet directly below the CRT). Then my dad remarried and we moved, which meant getting rid of all but two of those nice old TVs I had in our basement  including my pride and joy 23-inch Zenith, which I had so lovingly rebuilt from the ground up over the course of a year. There were so many old TVs being put out for the trash each week before we moved that I swear, my neighbors must have thought we were running a TV repair shop out of the basement!   Good luck, guys, and very kind regards, as always.
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11-01-2003, 03:59 PM
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Oh my gosh! How does he do it?
I wonder just how big Big Dave's apartment is. It must be huge, if he can fit all those old TVs in there and still have room to move around. I also live in an apartment, but mine is very small (one bedroom, with the main part of the apartment being one large room). I couldn't begin to amass a TV collection anywhere near as big as BD's is. The best I can do here is to have my two old Zenith radios in my place, but when I got my new one I had to stick my first ebay find in a closet (my apartment only has one closet, in my bedroom). I am pretty much out of space now, so collecting old TVs is completely out of the question anymore (although I did have half the basement of my former home full of old sets, but that was over 30 years ago).
BD has a valid point about his neighbors possibly reporting him to the rental office or landlord, as most apartment managers take a dim view of their tenants using apartments for anything other than living space. I don't envy him his collection, however, because it will be a big job getting all those old sets out of there if and when he moves again. Believe me, I know. When I moved from my former home 31 years ago (years before moving to where I live now), I had to get rid of all but two of the old sets I had in the basement of that house. My neighbors must have thought I was running a TV shop out of my basement when they saw TVs on the tree lawn in front of the house, every week for about a month before I moved.
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11-01-2003, 06:28 PM
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Most of my sets are in my mother's basement, in another city. The sets I posted in the gallery (except two, I'll get to that later) are recent finds. I have a 2 bedroom apartment. The living room is large enough for my smaller sets (the Silvertone combo will stay in Warren until I can buy a house (fat chance of that). If I arrange things just right, I could have room for my entire collection, plus audio rack system (HH Scott tube amp).
Currently on the bench (table) is a 17" Sylvania 17P12 series. After bringing it up, the filters and voltage doubler were warm. I replaced the evil selenium diodes before I did anything else. I'll order caps this week. My after Thanksgiving set will be my RCA CTC-16. The cabinet isn't the greatest, but will still make a nice display when done and working. It has an original RCA CRT without cataracts and with good emission. My goal is to get at least three sets done before the company Christmas party. I hope to display them there. As far as sets I didn't post pics of go, I forgot to make a vidcap of the Sylvania. The cabinet is metal and the paint is in good shape. The name badge and tuner knob are gone, and the antenna assambly is broken beyond repair. I have a Philco 12" roundie which I bought at an antique flea market in Columbus. Some idiot broke the CRT. After the vendor figured out a TV with a broken CRT would not go for $45, they finally took 20 off the price and I gave it a new home. This will be started sometime next year. I need to find a 12LP4. As far as the worst case senario goes (someone accusing me of running a TV shop out of my apartment, they better have evidence and be ready to show me. If they don't, they get nice bad publicity (I'll go to the media and my attorney). There are other ways around it, and hopefully nothing will happen.
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11-01-2003, 06:32 PM
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11-01-2003, 07:21 PM
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How did you do that?
wa2ise,
I just saw the TVs on your website. Very nice collection of older and vintage sets. However, I wonder--how on earth did you get the superimposed "NY" symbol (which is the logo of the New York Yankees) which you used to spell the name of the former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani? I never saw anything like that before, and to be honest, I did a double take the first time I saw it. Very clever! BTW, I recognize the set you put that logo under. It's an RCA ColorTrak 2000, if I remember correctly. Haven't seen one of those in years (in advertisements, etc.), and I've never seen one up close. Were they very popular or just a limited edition (like the RCA G-2000, of which only 2,000 production models were made)? Speaking of ColorTrak, just what was the purpose of that system? Is it still being incorporated in the design of RCA tube TVs 19 inches and up? I have an XL-100 19-inch set, bought new in 1999, with automatic color, automatic contrast and color tracking, and black-stretch/black-lock circuits. Is the automatic contrast/color tracking system anything like ColorTrak? If not, what are the differences? Thanks and 73,
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11-02-2003, 05:57 PM
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Jeffhs,
The NY Yankees symbol is just that. I copied it off a baseball web page image file and pasted it into the picture with the RCA colortrack TV. That set was pretty common, RCA made many of them. It featured a comb filter. Also the chroma would track the contrast knob, and there was a room light photocell to sense ambient light and when you turned off the lights at night, the TV would lower the contrast and brightness automatically. This TV also has DC restoration. IIRC (I used to work at the RCA R&D lab in Princeton, these were all Colortrack features). I had to service this TV a few times, a few years ago a connector inside the tuner needed resoldering, and recently the flyback transformer lugs needed to be resoldered to the main circuit board. And I had to tweak a sound trap coil in the IF to get rid of sound/chroma subcarrier beat notes in the picture.
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10-26-2005, 02:13 PM
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Zenith 1992 35 inch big screen console
I have a 1992 Zenith 35 inch Big Screen Console. It is in great working condition. Do you know how much I can sell it for?
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10-26-2005, 04:23 PM
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An 2000 "Sony" Tinitron 21" (I forgot the model) - Made in Spain
An 1984 "Telecolor" 3007 22" An 1971-73 "Nordemde" Color Prasident (needs restaorartion) 26" An 1958 Soviet B&W "Rekord" (needs restaropration) 15"
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10-26-2005, 04:39 PM
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Cutting back a little. I've got 4, a couple of which actually qualify as vintage, maybe:
- A Panasonic 19" tube set from 1971 that kinda works - The marvelous 1983-vintage Zenith 19" System 3 with Space Command and Space Phone that I bought new off the showroom floor earlier this year - a 38" RCA HD set with built-in DirecTV - My trusty ol' 27" ProScan that I recently got back from a guy who bought it from the guy I originally sold it to a couple years ago. The late '80s 20" Trinitron and 26" Colortrak console have found other homes.
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10-26-2005, 05:20 PM
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Amending the list for 2005...
23 BW 9 color
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10-26-2005, 06:14 PM
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All I have so far are two RCA 8TS30 clones, the Dewald BT100 and the Air King A1000. These I will be selling soon, less the CRTs, unless I get both sets fully restored.
I also have a genuine RCA 630TS made in 1946, and a Genuine RCA CTC9 "The Felton", made in 1959. I have my trusty 20" Sony Wega as my main TV. Jonathan
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10-26-2005, 06:55 PM
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1950 Zenith 12" porthole
Hoffman 10" table, blonde RCA ctc-5 floor console RCA ctc-10, table model metal cabinet RCA ctc-10 console w/remote Zenith 19" porthole floor model (a beauty) RCA ctc-16 console, 65 or 66? Packard Bell 10" 1966 Portacolor, first model Last edited by frenchy; 10-26-2005 at 06:59 PM.
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