Philco in Westinghouse clothing

[Phil Nelson]

The cabinet and label say Westinghouse, but they can't trick me -- I know a Philco 48-1001 when I see one!







The knobs are a giveaway. Oh, and the 48-1001 stamped on the chassis

The last thing I need is another skanky 10-inch set, especially one full of those annoying loktal tubes. What was I thinking?!? Oh well, at least it was cheap.

Phil

[jr_tech]

Nice! Does it have Ch 1 on the tuner?

jr

[Sandy G]

Kewl...If they'd made TVs around the turn of the century, they'd a-looked like THAT, no doubt...

[leadlike]

Count me in as a nonfan of locktals. The very first Philco I ever worked on had these, and me with my new tube tester, I put the first tube in the proper socket and...pssssshhhhh! I had broken my first vacuum tube! I guess those tiny pins got torqued just enough to break something in the base. No wonder they didn't last.

[bandersen]

Originally Posted by jr_tech

Nice! Does it have Ch 1 on the tuner?

jr

I'm curious too. My Philco 49-1040 with a similar chassis does which I find bizarre.

Count me in as a nonfan of locktals too. I found that neither the tube base or sockets hold up well.

[bgadow]

I like any kinda oddball...so I actually kinda like loktals. But I bet having to deal with a bad socket one time would cure me. Biggest annoyance for me is the ink they used for labeling didn't hold up.

[Phil Nelson]

No channel 1, sorrry.

Not sure what to call this cabinet style -- maybe "middleboy." Kinda high for your classic lowboy, a bit low for a highboy.

This one's far down in the project list. The chassis is a lot grubbier than it looks in that brightly lit photo. Think cigars and fried chicken.

Phil

[miniman82]

Originally Posted by bandersen

Count me in as a nonfan of locktals too.

Can I be the 3rd Loctal hater?

I was faced with finding a pair of 7N7's for my set, but instead I ripped out the sockets to replace them with octal so I could use 6SN7's. Worked out well, set has a super sharp picture.

[jeyurkon]

Originally Posted by bgadow

I like any kinda oddball...so I actually kinda like loktals. But I bet having to deal with a bad socket one time would cure me. Biggest annoyance for me is the ink they used for labeling didn't hold up.

I like them too, but they do require more care in handling.

John

[Dave S]

Originally Posted by miniman82

Can I be the 3rd Loctal hater?

I was faced with finding a pair of 7N7's for my set, but instead I ripped out the sockets to replace them with octal so I could use 6SN7's. Worked out well, set has a super sharp picture.

Hey, can I be a devil's advocate here? Isn't part of the reason we do this (to borrow a phrase from JFK) "not because it is easy, but because it is hard"? Who among us hasn't spent hours and hours refinishing, repairing, fabricating a part that at one time could have been easily purchased new for a couple of dollars? Easier still than replacing 6SN7s: buy a new POS Chinese TV. Just kidding! (says the guy with sets full of loktals, octals and mouse nests.)

--Dave

[jr_tech]

Originally Posted by miniman82

Can I be the 3rd Loctal hater?

I was faced with finding a pair of 7N7's for my set, but instead I ripped out the sockets to replace them with octal so I could use 6SN7's. Worked out well, set has a super sharp picture.

Good to know that a 6SN7 will work ok... I am working on a vertical problem in my Philco 51-T1634, and the 7N7 appeared to be bad, but it was socket corrosion. I ordered some de-ox-it. I hope that I do not have to replace the socket, but if I do, a 6SN7 may appear in that circuit.
Do you have 2 7N7s in your set? ... the Horiz osc in mine is a 6SN7.

PS: I do not HATE loktals, I just don't have very many, and it is sometimes difficult to figure out the type, since most of the lettering has rubbed off.

jr

[Phil Nelson]

To be honest, I've not had major problems with loktals, unless you count having trouble pulling one out from a very cramped space in a portable. They just seem so danged cheap. Such considerations fade once a set is working and back in its cabinet, though.

Couldn't resist peeking under the chassis. I counted more than 20 bumblebees and Black Beauties, which makes me think someone went through it a while back. There are still a number of paper caps, too.

Phil

[bandersen]

Originally Posted by Phil Nelson

... I counted more than 20 bumblebees and Black Beauties, which makes me think someone went through it a while back. There are still a number of paper caps, too.

Phil

It might be all original. I have several 1949-1950 Philco's and they all have bumblebees in them. For example, here's my 49-1040. I think Eric has one that looked similar.

[Phil Nelson]

Thanks, it suits me better if they're original. I prefer a set that was left alone, over one that was overhauled and may contain little surprises.

Phil

[John Marinello]

One like it in Minnesota sold last month:

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