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Old 04-22-2006, 11:20 PM
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westinghouse

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Old 04-23-2006, 01:14 AM
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oh man I wish that set was closer to me!

Shipping to CA is probably insane.

I hope an AK'er gets her!
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:35 AM
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Wow - now _that_ is going to get expensive. But that is a really cool set. I only hope that sometime soon someone figures out how to rebuild those bloody tubes, because without a tube, it'll just be a broken television forever.

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Old 04-23-2006, 01:21 PM
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An very old set that is not an "R.C.A."!
That C.R.T. is owfoul big! What angle of deflexion it haves?
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:12 PM
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That C.R.T. is owfoul big! What angle of deflexion it haves?
45 degrees.
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:32 PM
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I'm wondering if it would be a complete impossibility to locate an original back cover for this set? The seller says it's missing.
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:32 PM
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Wow, at my "Temp" 2 I have 60 degrees; why the deflexion angle was so small?
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Old 04-23-2006, 02:31 PM
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Hell yeah that's gonna get expensive! These Westinghouse sets are quite rare... even more so than a CT100. Still has the paper/wax capacitors under the chassis! I wonder how many years have passed since this baby's been in use?!

It's a shame about the CRT going to air. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to find a good 15" tube. I'd expect to win the lottery first!
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Old 04-23-2006, 04:10 PM
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You can ship the set to CA for under $400. Yes, these sets are rare. We have 15 in our database compared to 113 CT-100s:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/color_database.html

Here is the restored one at the museum:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/westinghouse_color.html

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Old 04-23-2006, 05:46 PM
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It was difficult to get convergence right with the early color tubes. Notice that the 15GP22 is a round tube (by 1954 all black and white tubes were rectangular) for the same reason. The next generation of color tubes (21AXP22) were about 70 degrees. Color tubes were round until the mid 60s.
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:51 PM
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Aha. My 1957 B & W "Temp" 2 it's a roundie!
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The Westinghouse 15" color set is one of my favorites. Along with RCA, Westinghouse was one of the eraly developers of color TV. As early as 1952, Westinghouse was demonstrating a color set using R-Y/B-Y demodulstion, which most other manufactuers used within a few years. The model H840CK15 alos featured a ture phase locked loop color reference oscillator, using no 3.58 MHZ color crystal. One of the front panel controls is labeled "color hold". Interesting too that the tint (or color phase) contorl was a back panel control, not intended for routine customer adjustment. This implies that the circuit was much more stable than the program material turned out to be! It also has one of th most stable high voltage supplies of any of the 15" color sets fielded in 1954. Shame about the CRT.
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:04 AM
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I hope it was better than the 1957 22" rectangular Westinghouse... I got one working (if you call it that) about 10 years ago. It actually had an OK picture, but the regulation was awful and it was very unstable in the front end. And just for the record, it too was & is missing the back. Says something subliminal about the reliability here; the back is never on the sets!

I bet this 15" one will see $2000+ on eBay...

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Old 04-24-2006, 11:46 AM
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Do you have any pictures of the 22" Westinghouse? I've never even seen a picture of a complete set other than on the cover of the Sams folder.
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I just looked at the photos courtesy of Steve, and mine was the same front mask but not a console. Just a cheap table model. I have no photo handy, but if I dig one up I'll repost.

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