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02-05-2009, 10:02 PM
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Too far for me also. Not that I'd have room.
Check out his new feedback rating too! There's no record of a negative feedback. Someone must have withdrawn a feedback. Maybe they worked things out. At least he finally adjusted to the real market. John 
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02-10-2009, 07:08 AM
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Now here is a question. Does anyone have a spare channel selector knob like the on on this famous console? I have a table model Westinghouse and it looks like that one. Mine has a knob that does not match. Just thought I would ask...
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02-13-2009, 02:32 PM
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Hi-I was the high bidder on the Westinghouse TV/phono/radio combo. I wasnt even aware of this thread until after the auction ended. I have been a very occasional lurker on this forum and figured now would be a good time to finally sign up. I basically threw in a last minute low bid, not expecting to be the winner. The price I paid was probably still too high, but I have been looking for a nice combo unit for a while and just liked the looks and condition of this one. Plus I was going to be in the seller’s area of southern NJ anyway (I live in the DC area) for an unrelated trip so I figured if I won it would be easy enough to pick up--which I did on Tuesday.
Anyway, the unit is an H-207 and is as nice as it looked in the auction pictures. While not mint, it is pretty close to it. It looks almost new with only a light few scratches here and there. I was pressed for time when I picked it up, so I didnt have much chance to talk to the seller. Basically, they ended up with the TV when they bought a house and it was in the basement. I gathered their over valuation of the unit’s worth was based on extrapolating off the auction results of a pre-war Westinghouse TV, which is obviously a whole different ball game. The seller said everything works—not sure to what degree they mean though. The electric cord for the TV has a lot of exposed wire on it, so much that I cant imagine they actually plugged it in. All the rest of the wiring including the cord for the radio/phono appears to be in great shape. Although the radio chassis seems pretty clean, there is about 60 years of dust on the TV chassis. I haven’t had a chance to do much with the unit yet but I hope to get the variac out this weekend and at least check out the radio and phonograph. I have a Sams photofact on the way. My intention for the unit is for it to be more of a display piece than to actually use it. My house is filled with stuff from the 1930’s-1950’s so the unit fits in perfectly. I hope to restore the radio and phono, but I doubt I am up to the task of restoring the TV from a technical perspective. I managed to get my Predicta Holiday up and running a few years ago, but I think I got extremely lucky with it. It didn’t require much in the way of repair, just resoldered some wires and resistors and replaced a few parts. Having since learned a little more about old TVs I am hesitant to try my luck again as apparently I was very fortunate to not have electrocuted myself or burn something up in the TV in the process! If anyone has any questions or restoration tips particular to Westinghouse—let me know! Lars
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02-13-2009, 02:58 PM
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I don't think I have one set in as nice a shape as that one. Congratulations on getting something in such beautiful condition - and at a decent price too! If that guy hadn't come to his senses, that set might have sat around until someone finally just threw it out in frustration. I'm glad it found a good new home. Personally, I find restoring the phonograph mechanisms more of a challenge than fixing the TVs. 90% of all problems in a TV are really, really easy to fix. And people here will surely be glad to help you through the other 10%! --Dave
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02-13-2009, 05:16 PM
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I am glad the set found a nice home.
Dan
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02-13-2009, 09:51 PM
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That is a beautiful set. I'm glad it was found by someone that can appreciate it for what it is.
There's a chance that the record changer is a Voice of Music. If you get a chance, please post any numbers you find on the bottom of the changer. I just restored a Model 951 that was in pretty bad shape. The person at thevoiceofmusic.com was extremely helpful and for that brand of changer, nearly every part is still available. John
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02-19-2009, 04:43 PM
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Hi again-I appreciate everybody's comments. I finally managed to test out the unit on Monday. I brought the radio up slowly on the variac, the AM radio works great. Unfortunately, the FM is DOA. The tuner cables are broken so I had to tune it from the back by spinning the big tuner wheel. I had a bit of a Twilight Zone moment as the first station I was able to pull in was playing big band music from the forties! I was surprised at how good the radio sounded--a large speaker mounted in a big wood cabinet definitely produces some mellow tones.
As far as the phonograph, it turns on and the turntable spins at two different speeds, but not much else happens. I manually placed the tone arm on a 78 record--I could hear the music coming from the needle but not through the speaker. At the end of the record the tone arm just continues to sit on the record and doesnt return. So it looks like I have some work ahead of me. I dont know if the changer is Voice of Music or not. The only info I could find was that some parts had VM Corp 1594 and VM Corp 1635 on them. I guess the VM could stand for Voice of Music? There was also a V6267 in big letters on one part. The tone arm has a sticker that says "Webster electric". I didnt try the TV as I need to install a new cord as the old one is pretty much unusable. I am not expecting much from it though. Anyway, although I have some experience repairing old stuff (lots of pinball machines, coke machines, several old Buicks etc) and have done some minor work on my Predicta, I dont have a great deal of experience with old electronics. I have done some circuit board repair so I am at least somewhat familiar with basic electronic concepts/components and soldering etc. I would like to restore the radio but it would be great to get the record player and TV working at some point as well. I dont want to trouble anybody on here with a bunch of dumb beginner questions, so I am hoping somebody could direct me to some websites that might give some basic repair tips for the radio and phonograph. I know the radio and TV will need to be recapped and the bad resistors replaced but beyond that I am not sure what else will be involved. As I mentioned in my first post, I realize working on old TVs can be a bit dangerous if you dont know what you are doing, so I will probably hold off on that for a while. But I am glad to hear 90% of TV repair is easy--it is that other 10% that scares me a bit! Thanks! Lars
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02-19-2009, 09:17 PM
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Do you see any numbers under the phono similar to what's described here?
http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/other.htm For radio repair information, here's one such site: http://antiqueradio.org/begin.htm I think everyone here at AK is happy to answer beginner questions. At least they've been patient with mine. If you didn't hook up an external antenna and the internal antenna wasn't connected, it's unlikely you would have received any FM stations. But, it probably at least needs recapping. In a metal radio of the same vintage that I recapped, I checked the paper capacitors after replacing them. One out of the six that were in this simple radio were good. The others were shorted. John
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02-19-2009, 09:39 PM
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This will be a very good project; it will take awhile but, man, what a feeling of accomplishment when you are done!
I would start with the radio; I doubt it is a real complicated chassis and should be easy to recap. From there move to the phono; you know, I've brought back to life dozens of radios and TV sets but I've done almost nothing with phonographs. A whole different segment; there are folks out there who are really good with these and know all the tricks. Cartridges and rubber parts can be replaced or repaired. The TV is a good way to finish things off. Look at it as just a big tube radio. The HV demands respect, true, but so does the B+ in a radio, or the AC line for that matter. The good news is that most sets like this didn't get stored away due to a catastrophic failure; most just gradually died of bad caps and nobody wanted to bother with fixing them.
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02-20-2009, 07:20 AM
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Thank you, thank you, I got a real laugh this morning outa the story of the poor fool on the first page of this thread hauling off his box of old tubes and wires and useless junk! Incidentally, I've been at auctions where guys bid up a box of junk, just junk, because it had an old electric drill in it, not an antique drill, but a common seventies green plastic Joe-Homeowner worn-out Black and Decker! With what they bid they could have had a brand new good drill and no box of junk to dispose of! There's no accounting for what brambly paths some minds take.
Reece
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