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*zenithfan1* · #16 06-29-2010, 12:44 AM

That's a beautiful picture on that set! Now I want to break out the 7VT5A Motorola and do that mod, great work!

David Roper · #17 06-29-2010, 01:31 AM

7" Sentinels rarely get their due performance wise. The Admiral usually gets credit for being the best performing set or best built or similar sentiment. I have one and they are nice, but the best picture I've ever seen in person on an electrostatic set was a Sentinel trapezoid.

Adam · #18 06-30-2010, 05:40 PM

After running the set for a while, the horiz was shifted over a bit to the right with the horiz blanking bar right down the middle of the screen. I thought first, I have no problems with horiz size, and 2nd in order to have the picture visible like that the horiz oscillator also has to be at the right frequency, and because there was no trouble with the vertical, I figured the problem had to be in one of the few components coupling the sync separator to the grid of the horiz osc.

But I replaced them all, and it made no difference! Then I just swapped the 6SN7s from the horiz to the vert, and it fixed it. I originally had put the strongest testing 6SN7 I had in the horiz, but the horiz osc circuits in these sets just seem to be really picky about tubes. Remember in one of my Motorolas, the horiz wouldn't sync, and the trouble was a tube, which also didn't work as the horiz osc, but tested good and worked in other circuits.

Phil Nelson · #19 06-30-2010, 06:02 PM

A tube tester may tell you nothing about how a tube will work as an oscillator. I have tried as many as half a dozen "strong" tubes before finding one that worked in a particular TV.

Phil

Adam · #20 06-30-2010, 06:25 PM

Any thoughts on what to use to patch up the speaker?

Phil Nelson · #21 06-30-2010, 06:33 PM

Cheapskates use tea bag paper and flexible fabric glue or some such. You can buy special "service cement" for this purpose; I have used it and I'm not sure it really works any better.

Purists may recoil in horror and advise different methods, but just between you and me -- that's a pretty low-fi speaker and it's going to sound about the same no matter how you repair it.

Phil Nelson

DaveWM · #22 06-30-2010, 06:35 PM

a patch made from brown bag paper and some white glue. But stay away from the edges. Honestly I dont think I would bother, I doubt you could hear it. The thing you want to avoid at all cost is getting any glue on the flexable edge.

Adam · #23 06-30-2010, 06:47 PM

That picture didn't really show how bad it is, it is something you can hear. I was already thinking of going the paper and glue route, just wondering what kinds of paper have worked better than others.

miniman82 · #24 06-30-2010, 08:13 PM

I have always repaired paper cone drivers with toilet tissue/tissue paper and clear nail polish. The nail polish gets into both pieces of paper, which sets up pretty nice. First you slightly wet the driver paper, then apply the tissue, then put another thin coat over the tissue and let it set. This method won't work well on the surround though, it's not flexible enough.

*zenithfan1* · #25 06-30-2010, 08:35 PM

I have always had good results with rubber cement on flexible parts. Aileen's tacky glue works well on rigid areas and dries clear. Have you thought of re-coning the speaker?

jeyurkon · #26 06-30-2010, 09:24 PM

Go with a flexible glue. Tea bag paper as Phil suggests, or something like it should work. Is there a tear on the opposite side that was previously repaired? There seems to be some lines in the photo that look like they may have been a tear.

You can always get it re-coned if you aren't successful. I'm really happy with the sound from one that I had re-coned.

John

Adam · #27 06-30-2010, 10:21 PM

I used part of another speaker, it doesn't look that pretty, but it sounds ok.

jeyurkon · #28 07-01-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

I used part of another speaker, it doesn't look that pretty, but it sounds ok.

Nice!

You can also re-cone a speaker yourself if the spider is still intact. The kits are readily available online. I haven't done it myself but I have replaced surrounds with good results.

John

Adam · #29 08-17-2010, 02:18 PM

Finally got this one mostly back together. The naval jelly cleaned the rust off the chassis for the most part. I still have to put the crt socket completely back together (it was stuffed full of dead spiders), and I'm having problems with the contrast control, so I have to pull the bottom chassis out again. I picked up one of the knobs I was missing last month at that Lansing radio swap meet, but I still need the other.