Can anyone help me identify this TV?

[trafficfixr]

It says Philmore Mfg on the back and thats all i can find. Its built into a rolling "bar cart". I have searched the internet and can hardly find any information on a Philmore TV at all. I took a few pictures to help out.

[zeno]

Wow I am at a loss for words............
Philmore is in Sams with some early sets.


73 Zeno

[Electronic M]

It could be an RCA 630 chassis clone. That is probably the only one like it left. I did not know mirror cabinets lasted into the TV era. With how much money mirror radios bring I wonder what a mirror TV would be worth on the open market?

[earlyfilm]

As Electronic M said, this Philmore custom set probably has an RCA 630 chassis.

For a bit of history on this solid-as-a-rock RCA chassis go to:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/rca_630.html

To verify your set has an RCA 630 chassis, click the "Technical Data" link at the top of the above page, or the one in the text. Then go to either the RCA 630TS link or the RCA 8TS30 link. I think the chassis pictures will match, except for the custom CRT mount. These schematics and data display better if you download them and don't try to view directly from the website.

The Factory manuals are best for restoring the sets, but the Sam's usually have better pictures than the Rider's or the Factory. Both Sam's and Rider's are prone to having minor errors in their data due to production changes.

By the layout, I'd say this is probably a later chassis. The chassis was beefy enough to drive a larger picture tube, but certainly never featured a rectangular CRT like seen in your 3rd picture, when sold by RCA.

RCA sold TVs with this chassis from 1946 through 1948, and also used basically the same circuit 1947 to 1949 projection sets a slightly different form.

The RCA direct viewed CRT sets carried a 13 channel tuner through 1947 and switched to a 12 channel in 1948 and later.

All the RCA projection sets carried the 13 channel tuner with channel 1.

Just wondering, what is the number of your CRT? If not visible, what is the diagonal measurement of the screen?

James.

[decojoe67]

Very unique set for sure! I highly doubt it would have anywhere near the desirability of deco '30's mirror radios. The size, weight, non-"roundie" screen, and rather boxy styled cabinet would make it a hard sell.

[trafficfixr]

Originally Posted by earlyfilm

As Electronic M said, this Philmore custom set probably has an RCA 630 chassis.

For a bit of history on this solid-as-a-rock RCA chassis go to:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/rca_630.html

To verify your set has an RCA 630 chassis, click the "Technical Data" link at the top of the above page, or the one in the text. Then go to either the RCA 630TS link or the RCA 8TS30 link. I think the chassis pictures will match, except for the custom CRT mount. These schematics and data display better if you download them and don't try to view directly from the website.

The Factory manuals are best for restoring the sets, but the Sam's usually have better pictures than the Rider's or the Factory. Both Sam's and Rider's are prone to having minor errors in their data due to production changes.

By the layout, I'd say this is probably a later chassis. The chassis was beefy enough to drive a larger picture tube, but certainly never featured a rectangular CRT like seen in your 3rd picture, when sold by RCA.

RCA sold TVs with this chassis from 1946 through 1948, and also used basically the same circuit 1947 to 1949 projection sets a slightly different form.

The RCA direct viewed CRT sets carried a 13 channel tuner through 1947 and switched to a 12 channel in 1948 and later.

All the RCA projection sets carried the 13 channel tuner with channel 1.

Just wondering, what is the number of your CRT? If not visible, what is the diagonal measurement of the screen?

James.

the screen measures approximately 19 inches diagonally. I will check to see the number on the CRT later when i have more time.
I appreciate everyones responses. I was having a terribly difficult time finding any info on my own.

[trafficfixr]

It matches the schematic of the RCA 630ts tube for tube and the CRT is a 20CP4.
Does anyone think this set has any value?

[WISCOJIM]

Not sure if trainman ever sold his last year: http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/...?f=15&t=251404

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[Electronic M]

Value of such a large (and costly to ship) set depends heavily upon where you are relative to TV collectors interested in it...CRT condition is also important.

I'd guess somewhere between 50$-1000$ depending on the market.

If you're close by I'd consider buying it.

[trafficfixr]

I am in Long Beach, NY

[WISCOJIM]

I'd guess it's probably a one-off set built by a craftsman and not a factory built unit. If factory built it would likely have the etched mirror pattern going around the knobs, rather than through them.

Can you supply more pictures, such as the label where the Philmore name is? I can't see Philmore producing anything high-end in that era.

If it's not a factory build, it may not have any real collector value.

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[Olorin67]

A set like that would still be the centerpiece of a collection, from size and uniqueness alone, so it has some value there.