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Old 08-26-2005, 03:56 AM
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roundie color off

My color to RCA roundie is off, any suggestions, areas to look?? Crank down monitor bightness if picture washed out.

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Old 08-26-2005, 06:10 AM
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It looks like you're missing the luminence information and are only seeing the chroma info. I'd check the video circuits starting at the delay line and on out to the crt.
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Old 08-26-2005, 07:08 PM
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turn the chroma off and you will probably see nothing, check the service switch on the back sometimes they used to get oxzidized and go intermittent.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:08 AM
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what does switch look like???

what does service switch look like??? Pic Please!!!
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Old 08-27-2005, 07:12 AM
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What chassis model of set is this?
The really old ones like before ctc-11 did not have a service switch.
The early-mid 60's sets like from ctc-11-16?? had a 2 position slide switch, one for normal and one to collapse the picture to a horizontal line for setting screen controls.
The later 60's sets have a pull out type switch with 3 positions usually...
normal, raster (blank raster for setting purity) and service (horiz. line)
The service switch is always in the vertical circuit and sometimes in the video circuit.
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Old 08-27-2005, 07:28 AM
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Without the model type/number and the schematics we can't give you a heplful instruction.
The screen shot looks like a failure in the luminance amplifier circuits behind the separation of the color signal. Usually such failures are easy to fix. In some cases the true failure is in the A.G.C. circuit. See
http://audiokarma.org/forums/attachm...chmentid=28089
It looks like a failure in the luminance unit, but it was the A.G.C.!
You can test it by detuning the received TV channel. If there is snow on the screen when I receive no video signal, the luminance amplifier might be OK.
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:52 PM
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Yes, video goes off when color turned down

You guys are great for info!! What specific stages should I pay special attention to??? I double checked the Chroma circuits -----what about the Bandpass stages(is this the lumenence stage????) & others to look at??
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:18 PM
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What specific stages should I pay special attention to???
Which RCA chassis is it? CTC??
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Old 08-29-2005, 05:55 PM
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The CTC-10C has a service switch. Mine gets intermittant every few years. A good cleaning always restores it to running fine.
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:53 PM
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Check the delay line for continuity.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:05 PM
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check B+ to video circuit

as I remember sometimes some of the 5w resistors would open up supplying B+ voltage to the video amplifier. The 1st thing to do is always check for proper power supply voltage, you could have an open electrolytic cap.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:16 AM
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Check video from the point after the color take off (band pass filter) all the way to the CRT. Color demods are working no need to check them. The first place to check is the service switch as others have said.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:01 AM
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good info

I have recently double checked status of delay line = good. Will see if voltages off value. Double check status of caps even though they are new.


Is the "Y" stage also known as the Band Pass Stage???
please reply with answer- need confirmation.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:47 AM
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Ok, If it's a ctc12, ctc15 or ctc16, the service switch is on the back of the chassis ind is a *two position slider* that goes sideways. There are also 2 slide switches that go up and down, one for video peaking (sharpness) and one for "kine bias" (CRT bias). These two have about 4 positions each. I think the service switch is between them.

The "Y" stage, or stages actually are the video amplifiers. There are three of them.

The first two are in the same tube. This tube is on the IF board. Looking in the set from the back, the IF board is the one toward the front and to the left, and shielded. It's the tube at the right of this board.

The 3rd one, the video output, is a 12by7. It's on the chroma board. Thats the biggest board (back close to you). The 12by7 is at the far left of this board.

If it's a ctc7, ctc9, ctc10, or ctc11, likely none of this applies except the part about the 3rd video tube being a 12by7.

If it's a ctc20, likely none of this applies at all.

The bandpass amp is part of the chroma stuff and is probably working fine, judging by the pic you posted. It's not a "Y" stage.

Best of luck,

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